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posted by martyb on Thursday January 17 2019, @06:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the quinoa-whisk(e)y dept.

Quinoa Whiskey? Modified Crop List Spurs Distilleries To Try Alternative Grains

By definition, whiskey is a grain spirit. And until now, that "grain" has been limited by federal law to four specific crops: corn, wheat, rye and barley. So when Darek Bell, founder of Corsair Distillery in Nashville, Tenn., wanted to start experimenting with alternatives, there wasn't really a playbook to follow. "We started looking at a whole lot of grains that were coming out of sort of the health food movement, the green movement," Bell said. "We're thinking, 'What would it taste like to distill this?'"

Bell and Corsair settled on quinoa — partly, Bell said, because of its distinct flavor and partly because of the perceived health benefits (none of which, unfortunately, can really withstand the distillation process). The distillery has been producing and distributing quinoa whiskey since 2011. Other spirits and liquor companies have been using quinoa in their products; FAIR, a French distillery, launched quinoa vodka in 2012, while several craft breweries, like Altiplano and Aqotango, use quinoa in their beers.

With a grain profile of 20 percent quinoa and 80 percent malted barley, Corsair's product is a spirit with a distinctly earthy and nutty flavor that may not immediately register on the palate as "whiskey." And until recently, the federal government didn't recognize it as whiskey either, due to its limited definition of "grains."

At first, the Treasury Department's Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau, also known as the TTB, wanted Corsair to classify the product as a quinoa rum (despite the fact that it contained no fermented cane product). Then, they suggested it be labeled as a "neutral spirit" — a clear liquid distilled from a grain-based mash that holds a high content of ethanol — which didn't really describe the crafted and aged spirit in Corsair's barrels. "Supposedly [a representative from the TTB] called the USDA, [which] said 'Yes, these are in fact grains' and gave us the go-ahead," Bell said.

Then, in early December, the TTB took a step to officially include quinoa as a whiskey grain. On Dec. 3, the TTB outlined a new definition for what crops count as grains as part of a 132-page list of updated recommendations for the labeling of wine, beer and spirits. Per the new TTB proposal, the list of whiskey grains now includes "cereal grains and the seeds of the pseudocereals amaranth, buckwheat and quinoa." And this is a big deal for craft distillers like Bell.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:17PM (13 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Thursday January 17 2019, @07:17PM (#787998)

    I'll stick to proper scotch whisky, thank you, not any of this whiskey swill!

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:18PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @08:18PM (#788017)

    Waiting for Mary Jane Whiskey...

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday January 17 2019, @09:23PM (11 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday January 17 2019, @09:23PM (#788031)

    I have been distilling my own whisky (and other flavoured spirits) over the last 6 or 7 years, since Mrs. Zombie bought me a still.

    Some of my batches have been pretty drinkable (although I would be lying if I said they have all been great). The best taste I have been able to get is when I leave the raw spirit in a bottle with chipped barrels (usually bourbon) for a few years, then filter it through a coffee filter.

    I am drinking tequila at the moment, because it's warm, and a cold margarita is nice in the evening. That is just a flavour added to spirit though, so cheating really.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Sulla on Thursday January 17 2019, @09:43PM (10 children)

      by Sulla (5173) on Thursday January 17 2019, @09:43PM (#788034) Journal

      flavour

      Here in the states distilling has been in that gray zone where its very illegal in most places, I think that the laws have loosened recently though. I have been wanting to buy a still and make applejack but don't want to deal with the feds

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday January 17 2019, @09:51PM

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday January 17 2019, @09:51PM (#788037)

        Hey U! Nice catch!

        Here where I live, distilling is perfectly legal, as long as the batch is below a certain size, maybe 10 litres. The home still kits tend to conform to our laws, so I don't need to worry about that sort of thing.

        I am also not allowed to sell the product obviously. People do however.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @11:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @11:01PM (#788059)

        Scumble?

        It's made from apples. Well, mostly apples.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @11:25PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @11:25PM (#788074)

        real applejack, as made in colonial times, is freeze distilled. put it in a barrel and roll it outside in the cold. periodically scrape off the water ice. in springtime what is left over is booze. no still necessary.

      • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday January 18 2019, @02:09AM (4 children)

        by dry (223) on Friday January 18 2019, @02:09AM (#788115) Journal

        You don't distill applejack. You leave it outside in the winter, assuming you're somewhere where winters are cold, and remove the water ice, therefore concentrating the alcohol. Distilled cider would be more like a brandy.

        • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday January 18 2019, @04:55AM (3 children)

          by Sulla (5173) on Friday January 18 2019, @04:55AM (#788146) Journal

          When I lived outside of the contiguous United States I was making some apple cider and the carboy got left outside in -10 for a bunch of days. When I remembered it was there I poured out the unfrozen remains to make sure the carboy didn't crack from the expansion.

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          • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday January 18 2019, @06:54PM (2 children)

            by dry (223) on Friday January 18 2019, @06:54PM (#788363) Journal

            Didn't sample it? Too bad as that would have been applejack.

            • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday January 18 2019, @07:20PM (1 child)

              by Sulla (5173) on Friday January 18 2019, @07:20PM (#788375) Journal

              For people who live in the land of the free:
              https://www.ttb.gov/spirits/home-distilling.shtml [ttb.gov]

              Home Distilling

              While individuals of legal drinking age may produce wine or beer at home for personal or family use, Federal law strictly prohibits individuals from producing distilled spirits at home (see 26 United States Code (U.S.C.) 5042(a)(2) and 5053(e)). Producing distilled spirits at any place other than a TTB-qualified distilled spirits plant can expose you to Federal charges for serious offenses and lead to consequences including, but not necessarily limited to, the following:

                      Within title 26 of the United States Code, section 5601 sets out criminal penalties for activities including the following. Offenses under this section are felonies that are punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both, for each offense.
                              5601(a)(1) – Possession of an unregistered still.
                              5601(a)(2) – Engaging in business as a distiller without filing an application and receiving notice of registration.
                              5601(a)(6) – Distilling on a prohibited premises. (Under 26 U.S.C. 5178(a)(1)(B), a distilled spirits plant may not be located in a residence or in sheds, yards, or enclosures connected to a residence.)
                              5601(a)(7) – Unlawful production or use of material fit for production of distilled spirits.
                              5601(a)(8) – Unlawful production of distilled spirits.
                              5601(a)(11) – Purchase, receipt, and/or processing of distilled spirits when the person who does so knows or has reasonable grounds to believe that Federal excise tax has not been paid on the spirits.
                              5601(a)(12) – Removal or concealment of distilled spirits on which tax has not been paid.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 5602, engaging in business as a distiller with intent to defraud the United States of tax is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 5604(a)(1), transporting, possessing, buying, selling, or transferring any distilled spirit unless the container bears the closure required by 26 U.S.C. 5301(d) (i.e., a closure that must be broken in order to open the container) is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both, for each offense.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 5613, all distilled spirits not closed, marked, and branded as required by law and the TTB regulations shall be forfeited to the United States. In addition, 26 U.S.C. 5615(1) provides that unregistered stills and/or distilling apparatus also will be forfeited.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 5615(3), whenever any person carries on the business of a distiller without having given the required bond or with the intent to defraud the United States of tax on distilled spirits, the personal property of that person located in the distillery, and that person's interest in the tract of land on which the still is located, shall be forfeited to the United States.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 5686, possessing liquor or property intended to be used in violation of the law is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 1 year in prison, a fine of up to $5,000, or both. Such liquor and property is also subject to the seizure and forfeiture provisions in 26 U.S.C. 5688.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 7201, any person who willfully attempts to evade or defeat any Internal Revenue Code tax (including the tax on distilled spirits) has committed a felony and shall be fined up to $100,000, imprisoned for up to 5 years, or both, plus the cost of prosecution.
                      Under 26 U.S.C. 7301, any property subject to tax, or raw materials and/or equipment for the production of such property, in the possession of any person for the purpose of being sold or removed in violation of the internal revenue laws may be seized and shall be forfeited to the United States. In addition, any property (including aircraft, vehicles, and vessels) used to transport or used as a container for such property or materials may be seized and shall be forfeited to the United States. Further, 26 U.S.C. 7302 adds that it is unlawful to possess any property intended for use, or which has been used, in violation of the internal revenue laws; no property rights shall exist in any such property.

              But at least we can buy spoons and pointed knives without a license, I guess thats something. From what I understand it is much easier to get a license in the states than it used to be.

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              • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday January 18 2019, @08:00PM

                by dry (223) on Friday January 18 2019, @08:00PM (#788389) Journal

                Seems similar here in Canada, with the law being part of the Federal excise act. At that a strict reading makes owning any type of still that can be adapted for alcohol illegal. Here it seems to be mostly aimed at tax avoidance and it seems there has never been a case brought forward for personal distilling with the cops commenting that they wouldn't bother about a still unless it was involved in selling alcohol, giving to kids and such.
                Really it is mostly a Provincial responsibility, so more likely to be covered by Provincial (and Territorial) laws, many that have their roots in prohibition, which was a Provincial thing.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:21AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:21AM (#788166)

        Here in the states distilling has been in that gray zone where its very illegal in most places

        In the UK, it's illegal if you haven't a license see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/spirits-duty [www.gov.uk]
        All those stills being sold on Amazon? water purification only..of course, you know what the Gaelic is for water...

        The deil's awa' the diel's awa....

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @09:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @09:59AM (#788183)

        It appears that distilled spirits have been legal for the past 30ish years, so long as your still was registered with the BATF and no more than 100 gallons per person, or 200 gallons per household are produced in a year. Furthermore there is a registration fee and maybe a yearly fee to continue being registered and might eb documentation requirements for your yearly production (in case they decide to audit you.)

        Other than that however it's been possible for years, and there is even a company in the bay area that sells stills mail order and has for years, in addition to normal beer brewing supplies.