A Swiss VM hosting provider has a technical blog post about how to kill IPv4 completely on FreeBSD. That is to say, turning it completely off, not just preferring IPv6. They then solicit concrete solutions describing, along with a proof of concept, how to turn IPv4 completely off in other operating systems and allowing them to communicate with IPv6 only.
Earlier on SN:
Vint Cerf's Dream Do-Over: 2 Ways He'd Make the Internet Different (2016)
You have IPv6. Turn it on. (2016)
We've Killed IPv4! (2014)
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Saturday January 19 2019, @09:29AM (5 children)
(Score: 3, Interesting) by TheGratefulNet on Saturday January 19 2019, @03:22PM (1 child)
in the US (perhaps its wider than that) there is an expression "leaving money on the table". meaning, if you negotiate a deal, did you get the very best deal you could have gotton, or did you get less than you could have, if you were a more skilled bargainer.
that says a whole lot about our (US) culture. if you are don't charge your customers for every little thing, you are not 'doing it right'.
I completely disagree with that, but then again, I'm an engineer and not a businessman. those are the guys who are ruining things, not us. we don't care if we leave a few microfarads on the table, here and there ;)
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday January 19 2019, @06:30PM
There is no "bargaining" with a monopoly, near monopoly nor dictator for that matter.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @08:08PM
Not France, but also EU. NATted networks with hundreds of customers are ultra-popular here as the opinion about Internet is that it's Google and FB. Yes, the Internet :(.
There is a nice question for a network test: How many NAT routers are between you and the world? I traced my network and there are 5. One is mine, so I can configure it as I want. One is from my provider. Third one is from provider of my provider, fourth and fifth are in computational center being the proper "provider" of Internet. Summing up: 5 NATs to pinch a hole in.
When I wanted to get a single-port pass-through (my computation machine returned its state... by periodically throwing strings through netcat, I'm lazy) I had to go to 3 people and the hole disappeared a few months later when computational center upgraded their routers.
The problem is that you may get a really poor telecommunication-grade Internet (fortunately not a famous 9600/8/n/1, but it started this way), with world IP but expensive and really slow, or faster and cheaper one without IP.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @09:19PM (1 child)
IPV4 is 'filled up'.
I have a /60 for IPV6 from my provider. My router asks for a /64 from that.
That is the state of the 'US'.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday January 23 2019, @11:06PM
I can never remember if /60 indicates the number of bits you get to play with, or the number of bits that are fixed for the entire subnet.