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posted by martyb on Monday January 21 2019, @07:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the their-way-or-the-highway dept.

Michael Biebl, long-time maintainer of systemd for Debian (2010 or earlier, based on changelog.Debian.gz), is taking undetermined holidays from packaging it. The e-mail was short:

Will stop maintaining systemd in debian for a while.

What's going on is just too stupid/crazy.

This takes place after he discussed a bug in which he expected systemd to respect local settings, and not rename network devices:

@yuwata a default policy like /lib/systemd/network/99-default.link should never trump explicit user configuration.

Later he seems surprised about how things roll there:

I'm amazed that I have to point this out....

The issue is locked currently, and also archived just in case, so everyone can read the initial report and the replies he got.

Opinion: It seems distribution developers are starting to get the stick too, not just users with their "errors" (taken from a reply). Will distributions finally wake up or is that they don't still grok the attitude of projects like this? [Or is it something else? --Ed.]


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Monday January 21 2019, @08:08AM (5 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Monday January 21 2019, @08:08AM (#789462) Journal

    You are assuming that systemd is just another init system. There are entire sites devoted to the idea that it is a RH world domination scheme, instead.

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21 2019, @09:25AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21 2019, @09:25AM (#789488)

    IBM may have other plans

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21 2019, @11:02AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21 2019, @11:02AM (#789507)

      IBM's bread and butter has been in selling expensive consultancy for their own, frequently overcomplicated and fragile, solutions. The invention of systemd is probably what gave them a hard-on for RH in the first place.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21 2019, @07:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 21 2019, @07:05PM (#789701)

        Yes, IBM's bread and butter, since the early 60s, has been: "we make it so complicated, you need us to help you manage it for yourself.

        Systemd fits right into that mold.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 21 2019, @02:41PM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 21 2019, @02:41PM (#789589) Journal

    There are entire sites devoted to the idea that it is a RH world domination scheme

    I thought systemd was a Microsoft world domination scheme plan 9.

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    • (Score: 2) by arslan on Monday January 21 2019, @09:37PM

      by arslan (3462) on Monday January 21 2019, @09:37PM (#789792)

      That's was a popular conspiracy theory until IBM bought Redhat