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posted by takyon on Friday January 25 2019, @10:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the we're-safe...-for-now... dept.

Senate Passes Short-Term Deal To Reopen Government, With Trump's Endorsement

President Trump has endorsed a bipartisan deal that would end the 35-day partial government shutdown. The three-week stopgap funding measure would reopen shuttered agencies while negotiations continue.

Trump announces deal to lift shutdown

President Donald Trump has endorsed a deal to reopen the US government for three weeks, after a record-breaking shutdown of federal agencies.

But the pact does not include any money that Mr Trump has demanded for a US-Mexico border wall.

See also: Dem senator unveils 'Stop STUPIDITY Act' to prevent all shutdowns
White House: 'Large down payment' on wall could end government shutdown
35 ways the shutdown is affecting America


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @01:56AM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @01:56AM (#792142)

    Then keel over at your desk and the government will throw your wife out on her ass for not paying "rent" on the property you already own.

    1) Why would you when alive "pay 'rent' on the property you already own"?
    2) That's one of the applications of life insurance
    3) Terms and Conditions state that you will pay property tax or the property will be handed over to someone who will. Whether you call it "'rent' on the property you already own", "protection money", or "taxes" really doesn't matter.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by hemocyanin on Saturday January 26 2019, @02:09AM (3 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday January 26 2019, @02:09AM (#792146) Journal

    He's saying you can never really "own" your property. Even if you have no mortgage, you have to pay property taxes every year or the gov't will swoop in, sell it at auction and evict you. That's just like what happens when you don't pay rent to a landlord so in essence, the ultimate landowner is the government -- we all just rent from it.

    This is another way to think about sovereignty -- it's very hard to buy land AND sovereignty over that land. Until you can buy the latter, all you are ever buying when you buy land, is the right to rent it from the gov't.

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Saturday January 26 2019, @02:15AM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Saturday January 26 2019, @02:15AM (#792150)

      Well, I can [youtube.com], but ... well, there you go.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @05:29PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @05:29PM (#792360)

      He's saying you can never really "own" your property. Even if you have no mortgage, you have to pay property taxes every year or the gov't will swoop in, sell it at auction and evict you. That's just like what happens when you don't pay rent to a landlord so in essence, the ultimate landowner is the government -- we all just rent from it.

      No shit. This is the real world, not sovereign fantasyland.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 28 2019, @06:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 28 2019, @06:26PM (#793149)

        fuck you, you goddamn whore piece of shit. it's cowardly suck asses like you who perpetuate this bullshit. guess what bitch? you will likely see civil war in your lifetime and i hope you get what's coming to you for all your years of seditious boot licking.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Whoever on Saturday January 26 2019, @04:02AM (10 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Saturday January 26 2019, @04:02AM (#792170) Journal

    Right, because you don't need fire service, police, roads, schools, etc. in your neighborhood.

    • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Saturday January 26 2019, @06:43AM (1 child)

      by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday January 26 2019, @06:43AM (#792218) Journal

      And if you have an off-grid cabin in the sticks of Alaska where the only way in or out is by hiking, you still pay property taxes despite the lack of services.

    • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Saturday January 26 2019, @06:53AM (6 children)

      by Magic Oddball (3847) on Saturday January 26 2019, @06:53AM (#792223) Journal

      Schools, no, I don't need those in my neighborhood, though adults who do procreate do.

      There are other tax-based ways to fund schools, firefighters, police, etc. that could be more closely aligned with the person's funds, though. I'd be all for property taxes if they took personal circumstances into account the same way that income taxes supposedly do, and didn't let renters completely off the hook regardless of their financial circumstances. (If Richie Rich rents a fancy condo it means he won't have to pay property tax, while Granny Poor has to pay it because she lives in an old house close enough for her kids to visit & help her out every few days so she doesn't get stuck in a shitty far-away retirement home.)

      • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday January 26 2019, @12:59PM

        by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday January 26 2019, @12:59PM (#792268) Journal

        Just to be clear, you do realize that LANDLORDS (and other property owners) pay property tax, right?

        And most landlords take that into account when deciding what to charge for rent. In many locations, landlords even pay significantly higher taxes for a rental than for a property they live in. Given that they pass along that cost to renters, renters are often paying a lot more property taxes effectively than owners of their own houses.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Whoever on Saturday January 26 2019, @04:54PM (2 children)

        by Whoever (4524) on Saturday January 26 2019, @04:54PM (#792350) Journal

        Schools, no, I don't need those in my neighborhood, though adults who do procreate do.

        Ah, so you are an incel.

        You didn't attend public school, funded by other house owners when you were young?

        You don't care about the value of your house? No schools == people move away, so your house becomes worthless.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @06:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @06:56PM (#792395)

          You've never been treated by a doctor who went to public school
          You've never driven a car engineered by a public school alumnus
          Your computer was completely designed by self-taught hardware gurus

          Etc. etc.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 28 2019, @06:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 28 2019, @06:29PM (#793152)

          you're an idiotic slave. you willingly send your kids off to be brainwashed by the state just like you obviously are. what a derelict fuck.

      • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Saturday January 26 2019, @04:57PM

        by Whoever (4524) on Saturday January 26 2019, @04:57PM (#792352) Journal

        I'd be all for property taxes if they took personal circumstances into account the same way that income taxes supposedly do,

        But they do. It's more like a wealth tax than an income tax. The more your house is worth, the more taxes you pay.

        Move to a cheaper neighborhood if you want your taxes to drop.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @11:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 26 2019, @11:11PM (#792473)

        "Schools, no, I don't need those in my neighborhood, though adults who do procreate do."

        Actually, yes you do, unless you like living in a shit hole of a ghetto.

    • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday January 26 2019, @01:42PM

      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday January 26 2019, @01:42PM (#792279)

      OMG! Those are *gasp!* SOCIALIST programs!!!

      /s?

      --
      Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.