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posted by martyb on Saturday February 02 2019, @10:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-look-at-me-that-way dept.

San Francisco could become the first U.S. city to ban the use of facial recognition technology, criticized as biased by lawmakers and privacy advocates.

A new bill unveiled on Tuesday, known as the Stop Secret Surveillance Ordinance, states that the risks of the controversial technology "substantially outweigh...its purported benefits, and the technology will exacerbate racial injustice and threaten our ability to live free of continuous government monitoring."

https://foxnews.com/tech/san-francisco-could-ban-facial-recognition-technology-becoming-first-us-city-to-do-so


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 03 2019, @06:08PM (11 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday February 03 2019, @06:08PM (#795746) Journal

    A bunch voted with their fear of racial minorities.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 03 2019, @06:49PM (8 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 03 2019, @06:49PM (#795766) Journal

    It's less racial, than caste. We have reason to fear the ruling class.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 03 2019, @07:46PM (7 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday February 03 2019, @07:46PM (#795789) Journal

      > Implying Trump isn't every bit the elite the Clintons are
      > Implying we actually had any non-"ruling class" candidates in the general
      > Implying implications

      Sanders was robbed. He could have kicked seven shades of shit out of both Clinton AND Trump.

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday February 03 2019, @08:07PM (5 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday February 03 2019, @08:07PM (#795800) Journal

        Implying Trump isn't every bit the elite the Clintons are

        Depends on what you mean by "elite". The case has been made that "elites" have shunned Trump for decades, leading him to develop "elite envy". Rather than catering to the elites, his businesses and TV shows cater to ordinary people who want to feel like elites or bask in his faux elite aura/persona.

        https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/01/donald-trump-elite-trumpology-221953 [politico.com]

        If elite just means a rich 1%er, then Trump can probably be considered an elite, although he has inflated estimates of his wealth from time to time.

        Sanders was robbed. He could have kicked seven shades of shit out of both Clinton AND Trump.

        Maybe, maybe not. If Sanders couldn't overcome the challenge of Clinton and the DNC, maybe he wouldn't have overcome Trump (nevermind the matchup polls, those are always subject to change). But Trump should still thank Clinton for being his weaksauce opponent.

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        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday February 03 2019, @08:09PM

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday February 03 2019, @08:09PM (#795802) Journal
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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 03 2019, @11:00PM (2 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday February 03 2019, @11:00PM (#795862) Journal

          The "challenge" was having the election rigged out from under him, Takyon. I've only ever voted D because "they're not R," but Jesus, 2016 was the single worst "hold your nose and do it" moment I have ever had at the polls. The Clinton dynasty has done more to shift the Overton Window to the right than anything any Republican candidate could ever have dreamed of, and it's only because of the chaos I correctly predicted was coming with a Trump win that I didn't vote third party or write Sanders in. The worst of it hasn't even started yet, either.

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          • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday February 03 2019, @11:09PM (1 child)

            by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday February 03 2019, @11:09PM (#795864) Journal

            Rigging it may have been, but if Sanders had another 5-10% of support, and Clinton had made more early gaffes, maybe Sanders would have defeated the DNC and become the nominee. But he didn't have enough support.

            He didn't overcome the challenge of a rigged playing field, which would only have led to yet another challenge of convincing the American public to vote for a "Democratic Socialist". The same public that ultimately picked Trump over Clinton (popular vote notwithstanding).

            I think any damage caused by Trump to this point is repairable. The biggest deal has been his Supreme Court nominations. If he gets one more, that will make a huge difference.

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            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 03 2019, @11:15PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday February 03 2019, @11:15PM (#795867) Journal

              Ginsburg is effectively already dead, and there's already a 6-3 majority of hard-right neocons on the court. THIS is why I held my nose and voted D; the Judiciary in general, and the SCOTUS in particular, is a massive vulnerability in the US government, in that a successful partisan hijack can cripple the other two branches for decades on end. Even if Trump had turned out to be perfectly capable and principled, I *still* would have voted against him specifically so that he couldn't pack the court. The GOP understands the above very well, and it's why they stalled out Merrick Garland, who himself isn't exactly another Justice Sotomayer...

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        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday February 04 2019, @11:54PM

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday February 04 2019, @11:54PM (#796360) Homepage Journal

          The Elites envy me. They envy me. Much better apartment, hotter wife, smarter, much richer -- and I became President. They didn't!!

          I used to be a Crooked H supporter. Big time. I gave so much money to the Clinton Foundation. Which was supposed to do good things, right? The only thing it did for me was, Crooked came to my wedding. I sent her the R.S.V.P. and she came. She had to come. But, once I ran for President I started hearing so many HORRIBLE things about her. Benghazi, people don't know this. The FBI sent more agents to Roger Stone's house than there were security guards at Benghazi. The "wiped" (erased) EMAILS. The EMAILS Server, why has no one looked at that one? Uranium One, that's the real Russia Collusion. It goes on and on!!

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 03 2019, @09:45PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 03 2019, @09:45PM (#795831) Journal

        We've covered that often enough here. Trump is not part of the "ruling class", nor will that "ruling class" ever accept him. You know how much I hate to say anything good about Clinton, but Hillary has a quality that comes with being part of that elite. Let's call it "sophistication". She understands how politics work, and she spent all the years after leaving the White House "positioning" herself for a return to the White House. She knows the game, and tried hard to play that game, by it's rules. She played well enough to convince much of the voting population that she was "qualified", or "most qualified". At the same time, she convinced much of the voting population that she was most certainly NOT qualified. (Benghazi?)

        Trump shares some qualities with the ruling class, but he most certainly lacks any of that "sophistication".

        Something I find amusing, is imagining Trump trying to use "command voice". He most certainly can use a loud voice, but it's probably whiny. "Command voice" may or may not be loud - it is precisely loud enough for the environment it is used in. Loud is almost never appropriate in any environment Trump finds himself.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 03 2019, @07:00PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 03 2019, @07:00PM (#795771)

    it's only wealthy, insulated (usually white) idiots who have never had to deal with poverty or "oppressed minorities" (outside of their contrived scenarios) that think every race or culture is equal and should be welcomed/tolerated/celebrated.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday February 03 2019, @07:43PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday February 03 2019, @07:43PM (#795786) Journal

      Race, yes. Culture, no. Some cultures are definitely superior to others. American whites, for example, should definitely have their culture replaced by either European whites' culture or maybe South Korean or Japanese culture. Especially the ones living south of the Mason-Dixon line.

      See what I did there...?

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