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posted by martyb on Monday February 04 2019, @09:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the everything-in-moderation dept.

YouTube is trying to prevent angry mobs from abusing "dislike" button

YouTube's dislike button can be a source of anxiety for many creators, and now YouTube is considering a number of options to prevent viewers from abusing that tool. Tom Leung, director of project management at YouTube, posted an update to the Creator Insider channel recently in which he detailed some "lightly discussed" options for combatting "dislike mobs," or large groups of users who slam the dislike button on a video before watching the whole thing, or even watching the video at all.

[...] One of the new options YouTube has talked about is making those ratings invisible by default, so you wouldn't be able to see the number of likes or dislikes a video has. Other options include asking users to provide more information about why they disliked a video (possibly in the form of a checklist), removing the dislike count across the board, and removing the dislike button entirely.

Leung acknowledges that all of these options have pros and cons, and YouTube may not implement any of them after testing. Particularly, he notes that removing the dislike button from YouTube isn't the most democratic option, and it's quite extreme. Leung invites users to leave their own suggestions as to what YouTube should do in the comments of the update video.

While plenty of creators have fallen victim to dislike mobs, YouTube itself experienced a massive mob recently when its 2018 Rewind video became the most disliked video on the platform last year (as of today, it has 15 million dislikes). Millions of those dislikes may have been genuine, but it's possible that millions of other dislikes came from users hopping on the negativity bandwagon.

Is review/dislike mobbing a real problem? Is there a positivity bandwagon?


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 04 2019, @09:28PM (14 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 04 2019, @09:28PM (#796287) Journal

    Some of those "creators" need to be abused.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 04 2019, @09:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 04 2019, @09:37PM (#796289)

    So do you, gonna step up and take it like a man?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 04 2019, @09:51PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 04 2019, @09:51PM (#796294)

    It's "abuse" that the YouTube Rewind promo with Will Smith got millions of dislikes, and became the most disliked video int he history of online videos because people were fed up that YouTube is trying to turn mainstream media and shit on all the original content creators that made ti what it is today. This is the real issue YouTube has, it wants to control everything, and they cannot control this. I'm sorry YouTube, if you got a 30 second, minute or 10 mintue video that is pure shit, I'm not gonna waste my time and watch it.

    Same issue with reviews for games on steam, now developers are flocking to distributors that do not allow reviews so they can continue to sell their shit games unabaited.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @03:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @03:47PM (#796705)

      funny, i dont read reviews on steam nor care about the curators. I'd block all of that if I could. i didnt have any idea distributors are flocking to sites that let them sell shit games.

      uh what games are you playing that you found out were shitty after reading the reviews and had to go elsewhere to be surprised the wisdom of the crowds didn't influence your purchase of more shitty games?

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday February 07 2019, @02:56AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday February 07 2019, @02:56AM (#797578) Journal
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday February 04 2019, @10:27PM (5 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 04 2019, @10:27PM (#796311) Journal

    Some of those "creators" need to be abused.

    Idiotic reaction, a waste of time/effort to deal with.
    Indifference/ignorance is all they need, not attention in the negative sense - negative as it may be, it's still attention.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Monday February 04 2019, @11:07PM (4 children)

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 04 2019, @11:07PM (#796333) Journal

      Speaking of which, I haven't seen any followup on Gillette.

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday February 04 2019, @11:25PM (3 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday February 04 2019, @11:25PM (#796342) Journal

        Followup from Gillette? The mob?

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        • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Monday February 04 2019, @11:59PM (1 child)

          by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 04 2019, @11:59PM (#796364) Journal

          That whole massive downvote and negative comment storm ('mob') they were purging at top speed after the men-are-puds commercial. I took a look while it was hot to see what the fuss was. The commentary was pretty brutal but i haven't checked since to see how it has developed (or if it has.)

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          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Reziac on Tuesday February 05 2019, @05:31PM

            by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday February 05 2019, @05:31PM (#796771) Homepage

            I don't know, but I watched the thing, Disliked it (fairly enough), then discovered that if you'd already Disliked it, you were blocked from commenting. That was a new one on me...

            Just leave the damn like/dislike thing alone. If you don't like getting mob-disliked, don't make content that shits on your own viewers or customers -- cuz that's really the only time these mobs materialize.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:48AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:48AM (#796612)

          Gillette, the best an angry violent humanoid with destructive tenancies can get

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Tuesday February 05 2019, @12:42AM (3 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 05 2019, @12:42AM (#796385) Journal

    We have youtube premium for the family (don't judge me)

    I leave it autoplaying on demonetized creators when I sleep as Youtube is totally trustworthy and promises to pay them when premium watchers watch their content regardless of demonetization. Sadly the best ones to sleep to aren't demonetized (what is it about Isaac Arthur? Start him playing and I'm out inside of ten minutes...)

    Anyway, it's my small rebellion.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday February 05 2019, @12:59AM

      by NPC-131072 (7144) on Tuesday February 05 2019, @12:59AM (#796395) Journal

      what is it about Isaac Arthur?

      He narrates from a deep space habitat.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:15AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:15AM (#796520) Journal

      I'll admit it. I fell asleep during Space Prison Colonies.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:56AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:56AM (#796615)

      I judge you!
      What's wrong with Netflix?