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posted by chromas on Tuesday February 05 2019, @03:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the do-you-really-want-my-view? dept.

The US government is seeking public comments on blocking sites accused of hosting copyright infringing materials and ISP liability in such cases. The discussion includes possible harmonization with current developments in the EU in regards to copyright and will take place in two parts. The first stage will deal with US case law developments since the last meetings. The second stage will focus on foreign developments, such as the infamous Articles 11, 12a, and 13, and how these relate to the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of Internet service provider liability.

The U.S. Government's Copyright Office is continuing its review on the future of the DMCA's safe harbor provisions. It's specifically asking the public for input on recent domestic and international developments that relate to ISP liability, including Article 13 and pirate site blocking.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @04:03PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @04:03PM (#796714)

    Your description of the end state for ISPs sounds shockingly similar to what AOL provided in the 90's. It was crap then, it's crap now and will be crap in the future. An open and free internet is the solution; we need people to wake up (again) and demand it.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:08PM (9 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:08PM (#796800) Journal

    A de-centralized internet does not fix that we still have web sites that are major nexus' of power and control. eg, Google. YouTube. Facebook. Twitter. Etc.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:42PM (#796822)

      You can't force people to do what is best for them so you'll keep having a large percentage flock to such providers. A decentralized internet at least gives people the freedom to choose alternatives.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:42PM (6 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday February 05 2019, @06:42PM (#796823) Journal

      They have absolutely no power, other than what is given to them by the users of their services. They cannot cut off your access to the internet ,except through ISP blocking. Our only issue with the internet is service provision. Content providers are putzes.

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @10:39PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 05 2019, @10:39PM (#796944)

        Considering that Facebook builds shadow profiles about people who don't even use their disservice, just boycotting them is not enough. I take all kinds of measuring to deter information collection about me, but even so, I know that these monstrous surveillance engines have some information about me.

        So, the boycott approach does not work by itself. Just as there are clear negative externalities when people pollute, there are clear negative externalities when people use monstrous surveillance engines like Facebook and Google, or use proprietary software. As more people sign away their freedoms, the influence of the monsters grows and it becomes harder and harder for free people to remain free.

        • (Score: 1, Disagree) by fustakrakich on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:17PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:17PM (#796967) Journal

          As more people sign away their freedoms, the influence of the monsters grows and it becomes harder and harder for free people to remain free.

          None of that is Facebook's or Google's fault.

          If you want to take the profit out of data collection, you'll have to give it all up openly to the government, socialize it, and then when you demand access to your own, they can't deny they have it.

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      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday February 06 2019, @02:41PM (3 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 06 2019, @02:41PM (#797169) Journal

        They have absolutely no power, other than what is given to them by the users of their services.

        So in other words, they have gigantic amounts of power.

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 06 2019, @03:42PM (2 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 06 2019, @03:42PM (#797190) Journal

          Only what is freely given. No force or coercion is involved. You take away the power by turning your back, that easy.

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          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday February 06 2019, @09:03PM (1 child)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 06 2019, @09:03PM (#797398) Journal

            I begin to fear that the documentary Idiocracy informs us of how well that would work.

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            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday February 07 2019, @04:08AM

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday February 07 2019, @04:08AM (#797598) Journal

              I'm not raising any hopes. I'm merely pointing where the power is.

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    • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:37PM

      by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 05 2019, @11:37PM (#796976) Journal

      These platforms hold a monopoly on much of the the monetization of social media.
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      From my non creator perspective, of these, Google and Youtube would be inconvenient to lose, but there are options for them. Facebook and Twitter wouldn't bother me to lose a single bit.
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      Google - yeah, annoying, but I'm really trying to like Dogpile. Just not the same though. Still, at least there's a lot of competition.
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      Youtube - A few people I used to watch on Youtube are now on Bitchute [bitchute.com]. Also a few people I still watch on Youtube cross-post to Bitchute.
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      Facebook - I log into facebook once or twice a year. I logged into Google+ more. So this one doesn't apply to me.
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      Twitter - I've never tweeted from my twitter account and other than following links that go there for news stories I tend to avoid it. I use gab [gab.ai] a bit though, mostly for snarky comments. So this one doesn't apply to me.

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