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posted by martyb on Friday February 08 2019, @05:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-all-geek-to-me dept.

https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/

LWN (Linux Weekly News) provides a written account of Benno Rice's talk. The former FreeBSD core developer gives some context around systemd and what FreeBSD should learn from it. He compares the affair to a Greek tragedy which contains much suffering followed by catharsis. His attitude toward systemd is generally not negative, but I won't cherry-pick any specific sections; you'll have to actually read the article for once.


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09 2019, @02:32AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09 2019, @02:32AM (#798661)

    I'm the AC. To be clear: ie. it can be summarized as "puff" refers the article - not the summary! I wasted part of my LIFE on the article and it was bad; we need to improve summaries so that we can avoid wastage like this, and also ideally better taste in articles because this is garbage. But at least if the summary existed I might've clued into that and skipped it. The summary isn't puff; there was no summary, which is its own kind of bad.

    Jarinok in another comment says "The whole point of this site is the discussion following each story. Not publishing stories because you personally don't like them is not an editorial process but a form of censorship."

    Jarinok that's painfully dumb. Counterpoint: it's not censorship to decline to greenlight the latest Taylor Swift gossip.

    If this site starts posting garbage listicles the discussion would be bad. It's not that I don't like the story; it's not that I like or dislike systemd (you'll note I said nothing on that!); it's that THIS ARTICLE IS BAD and the summary was nil. This is an example of noise. We as a community generally do a good job of filtering noise out. It's not about liking/disliking the issue an article discusses, it's about whether that article brings meaning and information or is empty and worthless.

    The ONLY way this article is NOT empty and worthless is if it serves as a "ha ha this is the best pro-side argument look at how bad it is" but that itself is straw manning in this case; there are better arguments for systemd than TFA makes. So, not publishing stories because we don't like their lack of value is an editorial process.

    It's not censorship to decline to greenlight the latest Taylor Swift gossip.

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  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday February 09 2019, @07:47AM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 09 2019, @07:47AM (#798749) Journal

    Jarinok that's painfully dumb. Counterpoint: it's not censorship to decline to greenlight the latest Taylor Swift gossip.

    That statement is entirely correct - because we are not here to discuss ephemeral pop stars. But it does not apply to the story in question, which is very clearly on a topic that interests many on this site. It has generated other comments here that have been informative and of interest to many of our community.

    I wasted part of my LIFE on the article and it was bad;

    You might have realised from the title "Systemd as Tragedy" that the story was about something that does not appear to interest you. You could have stopped reading at that point. However, it would have become apparent that the story was not one from which you would gain any personal enjoyment long before you finished reading the entire article. Perhaps you should have stopped reading at the point that you first thought that 'it is puff', That would have saved a few minutes - which apparently is a significant and valuable part of your life. I'm sorry that you know your lifespan is going to be so terribly short and you have my sympathy. There must have been several stories since the site began that were not of interest to you.

    I suspect that you fall into the camp of those that dislike systemd. I have no problem with that. But you have lost several more valuable minutes of your life by commenting not on the subject under discussion but on the choice made by an editor to publish this story. I am genuinely sorry that you felt more strongly about the standard of editing than the subject under discussion.