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posted by mrpg on Friday February 08 2019, @05:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the will-this-end? dept.

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'It will take off like a wildfire': The unique dangers of the Washington state measles outbreak

[...] "You know what keeps me up at night?" said Clark County Public Health Director Alan Melnick. "Measles is exquisitely contagious. If you have an under-vaccinated population, and you introduce a measles case into that population, it will take off like a wildfire."

[...] Anti-vaccination activists, for their part, contend that state officials are twisting facts to stoke public fear.

"It shouldn't be called an outbreak," Seattle-area mother Bernadette Pajer, a co-founder of the state's main anti-vaccine group, Informed Choice Washington, said of the measles cases, arguing that the illness has spread only within a small, self-contained group. "I would refer to it as an in-break, within a community."

[...] Clements eventually changed her mind, deciding to give her kids the shots after a doctor at a vaccine workshop answered her questions for more than two hours, at one point drawing diagrams on a whiteboard to explain cell interaction. He was thoughtful, factual and also "still very warm," she said.

[...] In Washington, state lawmakers supporting tougher vaccine requirements are mounting their second effort in the past three years to make it harder for parents to opt out of vaccinations.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @07:23PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @07:23PM (#798489)

    While your points are all good explanations of where the anti-vaxxers might be coming from you are asking medical professionals to change their advice to be more palatable to the ignorant. That is unethical for them to do, and wrong to ask of them.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @08:56PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @08:56PM (#798539)

    If medical advice does harm for good reason, is that ethical?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @10:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @10:03PM (#798559)

      Citations please

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09 2019, @04:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 09 2019, @04:23PM (#798849)

      It's not the advice that's the problem, it's the fact that there are willfully ignorant people engaged in paranoid rants about the alleged issues with vaccinations. Vaccines aren't perfect, but for most people the issues are minimal or non-existent.

      Allowing the ignorant to make money spreading the lies isn't helping anybody and can hurt those who couldn't get the vaccinations.

      This isn't like the flu vaccination that can lead to what looks identical to the flu. Lying about that is unethical, if you wind up sick with flu-like symptoms for a week, it's foolish to try and convince the sufferer that they didn't get the flu. I won't ever get another flu shot unless they come up with a permanent shot as it's not worth the reaction.

  • (Score: 2) by lentilla on Saturday February 09 2019, @03:38AM

    by lentilla (1770) on Saturday February 09 2019, @03:38AM (#798679)

    to change their advice to be more palatable to the ignorant

    It's no good being correct if people won't listen to you.

    Unfortunate as it may be, oftentimes the "best" solution has to be negotiated downwards to second or third best to appease the fools, and from there it is merely a matter of sales and marketing. I don't believe the grandparent is asking medical professionals to change their advice - they are suggesting a change of approach. If we developed vaccines with a hint of organic free-trade-sourced patchouli and that resulted in an uptake of vaccinations - well, so be it.

    If you can't reason with fools... manipulate them.

  • (Score: 2) by sonamchauhan on Saturday February 09 2019, @04:48AM

    by sonamchauhan (6546) on Saturday February 09 2019, @04:48AM (#798705)

    No one is asking for advice to change. Just effective alternatives to be presented.

    This is commonsense. We do this everyday at work for our bosses. Why is this hard?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 10 2019, @08:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 10 2019, @08:11PM (#799198)

    stfu bitch.