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'It will take off like a wildfire': The unique dangers of the Washington state measles outbreak
[...] "You know what keeps me up at night?" said Clark County Public Health Director Alan Melnick. "Measles is exquisitely contagious. If you have an under-vaccinated population, and you introduce a measles case into that population, it will take off like a wildfire."
[...] Anti-vaccination activists, for their part, contend that state officials are twisting facts to stoke public fear.
"It shouldn't be called an outbreak," Seattle-area mother Bernadette Pajer, a co-founder of the state's main anti-vaccine group, Informed Choice Washington, said of the measles cases, arguing that the illness has spread only within a small, self-contained group. "I would refer to it as an in-break, within a community."
[...] Clements eventually changed her mind, deciding to give her kids the shots after a doctor at a vaccine workshop answered her questions for more than two hours, at one point drawing diagrams on a whiteboard to explain cell interaction. He was thoughtful, factual and also "still very warm," she said.
[...] In Washington, state lawmakers supporting tougher vaccine requirements are mounting their second effort in the past three years to make it harder for parents to opt out of vaccinations.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @08:09PM (5 children)
Wait, what? Is that a real thing?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 08 2019, @08:41PM (4 children)
These cell cultures go back decades. Some baby was aborted long ago, and cells from that baby live on to this day. There are whole factories full of these cells to produce the vaccines.
The Pope said that the vaccine is the lesser evil, so Catholics can officially use these vaccines. (would be different if continued abortions were required) His statement seemed pretty reluctant though, and he allowed for the possibility of taking a different stance on the matter. Some people want to be more strict, feeling that it is improper to indirectly profit from killing a child.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday February 08 2019, @10:14PM (2 children)
Can you provide some citations on this please? Sounds like an interesting read.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 08 2019, @10:35PM (1 child)
Do Vaccines Contain Aborted Fetal Tissue? [verywellhealth.com]
(To be honest, I was trying to disprove the AC but was forced to learn something, instead)
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday February 08 2019, @11:15PM
When I read the comment I presumed they were just used as the source for stem cells or something. Interesting to read about following the recent thread we had about using research that was only found through unethical means. I wonder what cells in particular were used from the original source. If it were stem cells can they be derived from the umbilical court as well?
Some interesting pages I came across
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortalised_cell_line [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_culture [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contaminated_cell_lines [wikipedia.org]
The immortalized cell lines are interesting. Get some of your cancer used in research and a part of you gets to live indefinitely.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday February 08 2019, @11:00PM
WAIT A SECOND....HOLD ON...
People STILL listen to the Pope?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... do they still listen to the Howdy Doody show, too?
Give. me. a. break.
"No..no, seriously...allowing a priest to molest your child is GOOD for them: vaccinates them against the DEVIL!"
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