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on Thursday February 14 2019, @01:49AM
from the squeak-now-or-forever-hold-your-grease dept.
from the squeak-now-or-forever-hold-your-grease dept.
The text of Article13 and the EU Copyright Directive has just been finalised and it's utterly awful. It is clear what we do now: contact MEPs and get them to vote down the entire package.
https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/
Our best bet: The final vote in the plenary of the European Parliament, when all 751 MEPs, directly elected to represent the people, have a vote. This will take place either between March 25 and 28, on April 4 or between April 15 and 18. We've already demonstrated last July that a majority against a bad copyright proposal is achievable.
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In Tulsa, Oklahoma, it is against the law to open a soda bottle without
the supervision of a licensed engineer.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @02:52AM (13 children)
Solution is to leave the EU, it seems to be a toxic organization.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @03:13AM
to the most restrictive version. The tried and true ratchet mechanism, works every time.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Displaying this line will need a paid license.
(Score: 5, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday February 14 2019, @03:15AM (9 children)
Maybe it is one solution to this problem. Maybe not - there's no warranty that each of the states, on their own, can resist better on the copyright assault. Hint: neither have the US states on their own managed to do better
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On the other side (with me doing what the editors should have done and providing the original text links included)
A thing that clearly demonstrates that other proper solutions do exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:20AM (2 children)
Because they can't by the constraints of the Constitution.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday February 14 2019, @07:04PM (1 child)
The constitution would not prevent us to returning to the definition of "limited time" that we used in the past.
I think most of the problems would be resolved if we just made "limited time" equal to five or ten years.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday February 15 2019, @12:36AM
I agree we should have done that long ago, but that doesn't give the states the power to do so on their own initiative.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:43AM (5 children)
The closer government is to you the easier it is to control. Chances of failing to get something passed in the federal legislature is much higher than at the state level.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:51AM (4 children)
Really? My first 20+ years of life (under a communist regime) tells me the opposite: the farthest the government is from me, the easier is to control my life.
And if I can have enough control on my life, I really don't give a a damn'd piss over the government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @09:51AM (3 children)
yes! "Fuck you, I got mine!" is the principle we should all live on.
corruption worked in "communist" countries in the sense that the countries went to shit and the eastern block is still struggling to fix systemic problems in industry and infrastructure 30 years after the supposed regime changes happened.
and yes, by corruption I mean a system where individual people don't give a shit about the government because they have their local network of "friends" and black market that gives them a facsimile of a reasonable life. The simple fact that the USSR collapsed is proof that such a system does not function.
In Belgium, where they are properly civilized, the country survived for years (~2010) without a central government because they had a strong legal system in place, and authority was divided between different entities such that a corrupted system did not take over.
We need the EU to set up the solid legal foundation that local governments can function on. As long as that solid foundation is stable and enforced, it's true that the EU leadership can take a break (just like the belgian central government).
This article13 thing wants to go into the solid foundation, and we need to keep it out.
If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, at least don't pollute it with defective ideas.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @10:19AM
It has already been decided that you are one of these people, btw. How many bars of soap in your village?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday February 14 2019, @11:19AM
Really now, read once again the whole thread, including this [soylentnews.org].
Maybe you'll understand that I don't oppose governance, just have a low opinion on the government as a mean for governance.
One can hope you also see a distinction between legislative and executive, or is it too much to ask?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday February 14 2019, @01:06PM
That straw man was coming right for us!
Good idea.
(Score: 2) by stretch611 on Thursday February 14 2019, @09:45AM (1 child)
From the article:
So basically, support the far right groups to leave the EU, and watch as those same groups try to turn your democracies into authoritarian governments.
What can go wrong with that?
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @09:53AM
So authoritarians (people who want to tell everyone what to do, and force them to pay for that) on all sides over there?