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posted by martyb on Thursday February 14 2019, @01:49AM   Printer-friendly
from the squeak-now-or-forever-hold-your-grease dept.

The text of Article13 and the EU Copyright Directive has just been finalised and it's utterly awful. It is clear what we do now: contact MEPs and get them to vote down the entire package.

https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/

Our best bet: The final vote in the plenary of the European Parliament, when all 751 MEPs, directly elected to represent the people, have a vote. This will take place either between March 25 and 28, on April 4 or between April 15 and 18. We've already demonstrated last July that a majority against a bad copyright proposal is achievable.


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  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:43AM (5 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:43AM (#800895) Journal

    The closer government is to you the easier it is to control. Chances of failing to get something passed in the federal legislature is much higher than at the state level.

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    Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:51AM (4 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 14 2019, @05:51AM (#800897) Journal

    The closer government is to you the easier it is to control.

    Really? My first 20+ years of life (under a communist regime) tells me the opposite: the farthest the government is from me, the easier is to control my life.
    And if I can have enough control on my life, I really don't give a a damn'd piss over the government.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @09:51AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @09:51AM (#800925)

      yes! "Fuck you, I got mine!" is the principle we should all live on.

      corruption worked in "communist" countries in the sense that the countries went to shit and the eastern block is still struggling to fix systemic problems in industry and infrastructure 30 years after the supposed regime changes happened.
      and yes, by corruption I mean a system where individual people don't give a shit about the government because they have their local network of "friends" and black market that gives them a facsimile of a reasonable life. The simple fact that the USSR collapsed is proof that such a system does not function.

      In Belgium, where they are properly civilized, the country survived for years (~2010) without a central government because they had a strong legal system in place, and authority was divided between different entities such that a corrupted system did not take over.
      We need the EU to set up the solid legal foundation that local governments can function on. As long as that solid foundation is stable and enforced, it's true that the EU leadership can take a break (just like the belgian central government).
      This article13 thing wants to go into the solid foundation, and we need to keep it out.
      If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, at least don't pollute it with defective ideas.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @10:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14 2019, @10:19AM (#800934)

        "Fuck you, I got mine!"

        It has already been decided that you are one of these people, btw. How many bars of soap in your village?

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday February 14 2019, @11:19AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 14 2019, @11:19AM (#800959) Journal

        This article13 thing wants to go into the solid foundation, and we need to keep it out.
        If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, at least don't pollute it with defective ideas.

        Really now, read once again the whole thread, including this [soylentnews.org].
        Maybe you'll understand that I don't oppose governance, just have a low opinion on the government as a mean for governance.

        One can hope you also see a distinction between legislative and executive, or is it too much to ask?

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday February 14 2019, @01:06PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 14 2019, @01:06PM (#800983) Journal

        yes! "Fuck you, I got mine!" is the principle we should all live on.

        That straw man was coming right for us!

        If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion, at least don't pollute it with defective ideas.

        Good idea.