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"President Trump will sign the border security compromise package on Capitol Hill to avert another government shutdown and will take the extraordinary step of declaring a national emergency to obtain funding for the border wall, the White House announced Thursday."
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HELP! Man trapped in a human body!
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DrkShadow on Friday February 15 2019, @04:15AM (20 children)
His campaign promise was to build a wall.... which is now incredibly unpopular.
Wasn't his campaign promise also to make the Mexicans pay for it? What ever happened to that campaign promise?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @04:31AM
Depends on how badly the Mexicans will get shafted by NAFTA 2.0.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @04:34AM (3 children)
What would make you happy? no really, I'm interested. He's trying to fulfill his promise to build a wall and no, it doesn't look like the Mexicans will pay for it.
Although, maybe they should, because apparently, they have enough money to hire pilots to fly them over. Or to build mile+ long tunnels, or to hire boats and organize caravans and pay the media to look favorably upon them. They have enough money and resources to completely bypass the *useless* wall and walls never kept anyone out anyway.
So yea. How would you manage the borders? If you don't believe in borders, you don't believe in the United States of America and I'm ashamed to call you a fellow citizen, because somehow, somewhere, some way, you came to the conclusion that an organized system that tries to be fair, and just, and stand up for what's right in the world (mostly), shouldn't exist. You can't have a country without borders. You can't have a country unless those borders are managed. You can't manage without *doing* something to define those borders. And when FOREIGN NON-USA PEOPLE abuse and overrun the borders WE manage. WE, The People of the United States of America NEED to stand up and bring order to the chaos and manage our borders.
So what would make you happy?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 15 2019, @04:45AM (1 child)
What would make you happy? no really, I'm interested. He's trying to fulfill his promise to build a wall and no, it doesn't look like the Mexicans will pay for it.
So I count two promises in that sentence. How do we determine which are the real promises and which are the pretend promises?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @08:39AM
Look, if you like your wall, you get to keep it.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Friday February 15 2019, @06:07PM
An end to the war on drugs, which is presently the fundamental cause of most problems at the border. As well as throughout our society.
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You come from dust. You return to dust. That's
why I don't dust. Might have been a friend.
(Score: 5, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 15 2019, @04:37AM (4 children)
What ever happened to that campaign promise?
Throw it on the pile! We're gonna need to tetris the fuck out of this pile to get it to fit in the dumpster!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @06:18AM (3 children)
You can find it right next to Obama's promise to stop illegal mass surveillence.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @09:01AM (2 children)
But at least he fulfilled his promise to close gitmo, right? Right? Thanks Obama!
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @10:16AM (1 child)
https://theintercept.com/2015/11/10/congress-overwhelmingly-votes-to-block-guantanamo-closure/ [theintercept.com]
Obama's fault? Might as well say that not building a wall is thanks to Trump. Some bizarro world you people live in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court [wikipedia.org]
So, you may want to look in the Request Denied and Modified columns. You'll see that under Obama these numbers sent up from 0 to something more than 0.
My suggestion is to wake the fuck up about realities of your country and get involved instead of spouting these idiotic things like Trump does. This may require you getting educated instead of spouting one liners based on a summary of some website clickbait you saw but never even bothered to read.
(Score: 3, Informative) by urza9814 on Friday February 15 2019, @03:55PM
I see you've fallen for his propaganda. In reality, he never needed their permission, he just used that as an excuse so he could pass the blame along to someone else. He was pretty good at doing that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-president-doesnt-need-congresss-permission-to-close-guantanamo/2015/11/06/4cc9d2ac-83f5-11e5-a7ca-6ab6ec20f839_story.html?utm_term=.b99229f4a5ae [washingtonpost.com]
So you think Obama was elected in 2003 or...?
Obama approved 12,162, modified 541, and rejected 41
Bush approved 14,353, modified 399, and rejected 6
Clinton approved 6,057, modified 1, and rejected 0
Obama looks a hell of a lot closer to Bush than anyone else in that chart. What does it matter that he rejected three dozen when he approve *thousands* more?
(Score: 1) by redneckmother on Friday February 15 2019, @05:18AM (1 child)
It fell by the wayside, just like his promise to Stormy (I'll respect you in the morning).
Mas cerveza por favor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @07:31AM
It worked out. She's getting tons of respect from CNN and Michael Avenatti. Not so much from the Federal 9th District Court.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by physicsmajor on Friday February 15 2019, @09:53AM (2 children)
You're being snarky but there is a good case to be made this is already happening or will happen.
Tariffs on goods from Mexico have probably already generated more than this amount of revenue.
There's a fairly reasonable proposal to direct seized assets of the drug lord El Chapo - which are estimated over double the requested $5.7 Billion USD figure - to a physical barrier.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @10:38PM (1 child)
First, you apparently are unaware that the new NAFTA deal has not been ratified by any of the three countries. Not a single dollar or peso has been levied nor collected under this new deal, and won't for quite a while.
Second, you are apparently very unaware that the great new deal he brought is basically the same deal that has been in place, but with a few tweaks. Exactly what all three countries have been wanting to do in the first place.
And most egregious of all, you are obviously completely ignorant on what tariffs actually are and who pays them. In this case, all that wall money ain't coming from the Mexicans.
With your lack of critical thinking, I think you should switch to being something like "marketingmajor" or "MBAmajor" instead of "physicsmajor".
Look, he can very easily start building the wall in earnest when Mexico cuts him a check, but he sure as hell can't argue that he has to build it because he promised to without that other part that he emphasized very strongly: AND MEXICO WILL PAY FOR IT.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 17 2019, @09:46AM
Plus elements of the TPP that would give us more draconian patent rules.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by stretch611 on Friday February 15 2019, @10:34AM (1 child)
Same thing with his promise to drain the swamp...
and to make the best deals...
His ego promised what his brain is unable to deliver.
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @10:42AM
Wait! You mean he actually has a brain?
I was inclined to think about that matter inside his cranium as, at best, a plexus.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 15 2019, @03:16PM
El Chapo has donated 14 billion to the cause. I think he's Mexican?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @06:08PM
Outside of leftist enclaves, Americans want a wall.
Mexicans actually want the wall! OK, they don't want to pay for it, but actual Mexicans in Mexico want the wall because it would impact the cartels.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @12:55AM
Yes, it was.
It's beeen forgotten long ago.
Next question!