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posted by martyb on Friday February 15 2019, @03:52AM   Printer-friendly
from the President's-precedents dept.

"President Trump will sign the border security compromise package on Capitol Hill to avert another government shutdown and will take the extraordinary step of declaring a national emergency to obtain funding for the border wall, the White House announced Thursday."

https://foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-says-trump-prepared-to-sign-border-security-bill-and-will-declare-national-emergency


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @04:20AM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @04:20AM (#801395)

    How many of these states of emergency is the US in now? 33? They should all be ended, but there is nothing extraordinary about it.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @04:50AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @04:50AM (#801408)

    This is supposedly a more expansive use of the national emergency than previous ones. No, I don't have a source for that.

    • (Score: 2) by mth on Friday February 15 2019, @10:56AM (1 child)

      by mth (2848) on Friday February 15 2019, @10:56AM (#801486) Homepage

      Most of the other things on the list, especially from the last 25 years, are neither national nor emergencies (not anymore anyway; they may have been urgent at the time). It seems to me that the main difference is that most things on the list weren't controversial, so politicians didn't care that the national emergency mechanism was abused to quickly react to international developments with asset freezes etc.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @12:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @12:38PM (#801500)

        I really like how Trump manages to bring all the corrupt crap that has been going on in the government to the public consciousness.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by progo on Friday February 15 2019, @04:58AM (1 child)

    by progo (6356) on Friday February 15 2019, @04:58AM (#801411) Homepage

    No wonder the country is on edge. We've got 31 emergencies already before we add a new one this week.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday February 16 2019, @03:29AM

      by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 16 2019, @03:29AM (#801914) Homepage Journal

      Shows we should have started numbering emergencies at zero. With number 32, our five-bit emergency counter overflows.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 15 2019, @05:10AM (9 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday February 15 2019, @05:10AM (#801415) Journal

    How many of these states of emergency is the US in now? 33? They should all be ended, but there is nothing extraordinary about it.

    Ok!

    I vote we get rid of the one about Iran getting nukes since they're complying with their treaty. How do you feel about that one?

    Executive Order 12170

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @05:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @05:52AM (#801433)

      I'm OK with it. Why are you so afraid?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @12:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @12:42PM (#801501)

      Yea, get rid of all of them, if they are that important have a real debate about it to bring it back. I only learned this because Trump, I had no idea the government has the legal power to confiscate all savings accounts due to these "emergencies": http://www.gata.org/node/5606 [gata.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @01:00PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @01:00PM (#801504)

      no
      muslims + nukes = bad

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @01:06PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @01:06PM (#801507)

        Even if you think that, does that that mean therefore the government should have the power to confiscate your savings account if they feel like it?

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 15 2019, @03:45PM (3 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 15 2019, @03:45PM (#801575) Journal

          Please, don't get angry. But, you're exposing some ignorance here.

          Americans don't HAVE savings. Very damned few do, anyway. Everyone is busy spending their kid's inheritance, for the next twenty generations. No one saves money.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @03:54PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15 2019, @03:54PM (#801592)

            That is exactly how they will justify taking the cash/stocks/gold/crypto from people that did attempt to plan ahead.

            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday February 15 2019, @04:17PM (1 child)

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday February 15 2019, @04:17PM (#801619) Journal

              That's why I think it's a better strategy to bank skills & knowledge that nobody can tax and that no government can take away from you. No congress can tax the love you have for your friends and family. No president can get between you and your deity of choice.

              --
              Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday February 15 2019, @08:21PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Friday February 15 2019, @08:21PM (#801762)

        Because Pakistan has caused Armageddon, sure.

        --
        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"