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posted by martyb on Saturday February 16 2019, @08:56AM   Printer-friendly
from the Better-than-a-rat-race dept.

Is a religious group a 'race' or isn't it? Is someone 'racist' if they publicly state their dislike of a religious group? An Australian tribunal has answered this question by ruling that Muslim is not a race, and as such, a person who vilifies them in public, an act which is currently illegal in Australia, would not have broken the law.

In 2016 Sonia Kruger 'called for an end to migration from Islamic countries' saying that she wanted people to feel safe when going out to celebrate Australia day. Sam Ekermawi, a Muslim, filed a complaint to the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal claiming the comments were racial vilification.

The tribunal was unable to conclude Muslims living in Australia "are a 'race' by reason of a common ethnic or ethno-religious origin" and dismissed the application. This is an important milestone in the legal and cultural development of the ocean-bound nation which is still attempting to balance the melting pot of cultures and people who have migrated to the country from all over the world. This ruling may be a key threshold for defining what the word 'race' actually means in the legal and social and cultural context and how laws will be interpreted in the future.


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  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @10:00AM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @10:00AM (#801989)

    I posted links to a discussion about halal certification in a web forum. The response from the forum was that I was a racist.
    Have the SJW won?

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @10:24AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @10:24AM (#801990)

    SJW's are a lower life form that don't have a personality. Basically... drones.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 16 2019, @10:41AM (5 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 16 2019, @10:41AM (#801991) Journal

      But - DAS RACISSSS!!!

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:40AM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:40AM (#802001)

        Runaway is racist, the worst kind of racist: Archie Bunker West Pennsylvania Polack Racist. Nobody's coming back from that kinda racist.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @12:31PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @12:31PM (#802011)

          Nothing like derogatory racial slurs to drive home the point that the other guy's a racist.

          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @01:14PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @01:14PM (#802025)

            Not really sure why people view it as a slur. A male pole is a polak, a female one is polka. It's like calling a jew, a jew, and people getting offended. I think it would be more offensive calling someone jewish. Like you're not really a jew, you're just jewish. Like calling someone christianish.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday February 16 2019, @05:18PM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday February 16 2019, @05:18PM (#802091) Journal

      Then call the FAA

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:38AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:38AM (#802000)

    You are racist. Deal with it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:53AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:53AM (#802005)

      If a SJW speaks up against racists, doesn't that make them racists themselves?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @02:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 16 2019, @02:57PM (#802047)

        If a SJW refuses to drink the coolaid and just once defends the right, does that make them a racist?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Bot on Sunday February 17 2019, @11:12AM

      by Bot (3902) on Sunday February 17 2019, @11:12AM (#802465) Journal

      What are you, some kind of racistophobe?

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by HiThere on Saturday February 16 2019, @05:46PM (1 child)

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 16 2019, @05:46PM (#802107) Journal

    FWIW, I've never been certain what halal meant, except safe for Muslims to eat. I got an idea that Kosher means it doesn't have blood or pork, it's been slaughtered "humanely", and it's been blessed by a rabbi, but I haven't got much of a clue what halal means. From what I can tell there's no central Muslim authority certifying people to bless food, and I don't know what other attributes it's supposed to have.

    ("Humanely" was in quotes, because it really refers to what was considered humane practice in the middle ages. Otherwise they'd insist on something like killing it with nitrogen [i.e. no oxygen, but also no CO2].)

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    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:11PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday February 16 2019, @11:11PM (#802231) Journal

      Islam and Judaism are waaaaaaaay closer together than either one wants to admit :) And closer to one another than either is to Christianity. Ironic, no?

      Halal is more or less "permitted, sanctioned," and "haraam" is "forbidden, set apart, under protection/separation." And yes, the word "harem" shares the same root, and incidentally so does the ancient Jewish practice of "herem." Which is when an entire city of enemies was designated "herem," or set aside/"dedicated to YHWH" and utterly destroyed, no plunder allowed.

      Semitic languages commonly have these triple-consonant bases for words with the varying vowel sounds in the middle giving them meaning. One reason ancient Hebrew is so incredibly hard to read is it's pretty much *just* the consonants with no vowels and no spacing...

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