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posted by janrinok on Monday February 18 2019, @06:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the it-makes-sense dept.

How streaming music could be harming the planet

Once vinyl or a CD is purchased, it can be played over and over again, the only carbon cost coming from running the record player. However, if we listen to our streamed music using a hi-fi sound system it's estimated to use 107 kilowatt hours of electricity a year, costing about £15.00 to run. A CD player uses 34.7 kilowatt hours a year and costs £5 to run.

Solution: Use a smartphone or laptop with headphones unless you are playing music for guests. Download the songs you play repeatedly.


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:00PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:00PM (#803090)

    1) Register each device capable of streaming content to a real person
    2) Track all content listened to on each device
    3) Tax each person based on how much electricity is used (give discounts for listening to educational materials though)
    4) Use the tax revenue to fight climate change by funding educational materials that raise awareness about the problem

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Monday February 18 2019, @07:14PM (6 children)

    by edIII (791) on Monday February 18 2019, @07:14PM (#803104)

    Some climate change deniers I speak with are skeptical of climate change because of the possible agendas of control behind the people pushing it. Meaning, one world government bullshit being forced down our throats in the form of controls to combat climate change.

    You're not fucking helping. It's ridiculous and offensive to promote entire platforms of control (register, monitor, tax) that give preferential treatment to some just to push your agenda. Regardless of whether it may, or may not, be correct or beneficial.

    I'm on the side of climate change, but fuck all if I'm going to give up my rights to privacy and peaceful enjoyment of music because you want to fucking regulate how much power I used to do it. Give discounts for materials you like, or worse, you meant propaganda that helps "educate" the others with goodthink?

    Lemme guess, do you want to call this division the SS? (Streaming Security)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @08:51PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @08:51PM (#803170)

      Those 4 steps are so ridiculous that I can only imagine it is from a Libertrollian.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @09:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @09:01PM (#803177)

        The list hits all the important points that stakeholders require for an idea to save us from climate change to get off the ground:

        Increase spying. Check.
        Increase taxes. Check.
        Increase propaganda/marketing opportunities. Check.
        Create more of the problem supposedly being solved. Check.

        Look at any "solution" to climate change that gains political traction and you will see it has at least half these qualities. Eg, nuclear power can only hit one at best (increase taxes) so that is a no-go.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @08:53PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @08:53PM (#803172)

      Mathematical models have proven the earth is going to mend in 11 years if climate change is not stopped. But you people "on the side of climate change" would rather stream music then do anything to help I guess.

      And fine, make the discount a rebate then. For every hour of noneducational material each device must play an hour of educational material to offset the emissions. Tax or rebate the difference, then people can get paid to learn if they only listen to educational streams.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @10:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @10:29PM (#803217)

        Maybe they can educate you not to fall for climate change hoaxes. Let me guess... you also don't want to vaccinate your child because of the autism.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19 2019, @04:42PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19 2019, @04:42PM (#803528)

      >Some climate change deniers I speak with are skeptical of climate change because of the possible agendas of control behind the people pushing it. Meaning, one world government bullshit being forced down our throats in the form of controls to combat climate change.

      The loonies who think that civilization and science are Marxist plots cannot be reasoned with. There's no point in coddling them either. The longer we coddle them, the longer they vote for the scumbags who feed their delusions.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @10:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @10:22AM (#803942)

        I think a major difference is that in the US many people have been waiting for the attempted mass murder purge of everyone who disagrees with some version of communism/socialism. It is not coming unexpectedly as it did in Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, and PRC. Everyone is very clear on what the next steps for you are going to be.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday February 18 2019, @07:21PM (3 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday February 18 2019, @07:21PM (#803111) Homepage Journal

    Solution to what, a modern standard of living? You're free to go off-grid and use only candles you made yourself for light if you like but you're no way in hell going to tell me I'm not allowed to do legal things that I can afford to do. Take a bath, hippie.

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    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday February 18 2019, @07:41PM (2 children)

      by sjames (2882) on Monday February 18 2019, @07:41PM (#803125) Journal

      Make sure the candles are pure bees wax so they'll be carbon neutral! :-)

      Personally, I support efforts to reduce carbon emissions, but the parent proposal is akin to fixing a leaky sink during a 500 year flood.

      • (Score: 2) by NateMich on Tuesday February 19 2019, @03:36PM (1 child)

        by NateMich (6662) on Tuesday February 19 2019, @03:36PM (#803492)

        Make sure the candles are pure bees wax so they'll be carbon neutral! :-)

        But what about the poor bees?

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sjames on Monday February 18 2019, @07:26PM

    by sjames (2882) on Monday February 18 2019, @07:26PM (#803115) Journal

    Emit vastly more carbon regulating an extremely minor contributor than streaming ever could.

    Consider all those computers tracking all that streaming, all those forms filled out in triplicate claiming educational exemptions. All those investigators auditing the educational claims and all the paperwork that generates. Even if everyone involved telecommutes, they'll emit more carbon than streaming audio does. Then someone (probably a few someones) will have to go to court in person with all that driving internal combustion vehicles.

    Even banks eventually figured out that burning $1000 in overtime looking for the missing dime is a losing proposition.

    On the bright side, we will all get to laugh at the wild claims of detector vans that can not only sniff out a HiFi stereo but determine that it is streaming audio rather than playing a CD.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:30PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:30PM (#803118)

    My way...
    1) Call my entertainment manager on my cell phone to book a private concert in Bermuda and hire support staff
    2) Take my private jet to Bermuda, the support staff and bands are flown in on separate flights
    3) Start a large bonfire
    4) Enjoy my playlist
    HRC

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:38PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:38PM (#803122)
      Please specify what the said bonfire consists of. A necessary question when dealing with your family ;-)
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:50PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @07:50PM (#803134)

        iPhones, basement servers, and hard drives

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday February 18 2019, @09:18PM

          by Gaaark (41) on Monday February 18 2019, @09:18PM (#803189) Journal

          and lots of cloths.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @10:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @10:01PM (#803207)

        Don't worry, they'll light it up, but they won't inhale.

        Might be few dead bodies in there, but that's just part of doing business.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @11:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 18 2019, @11:52PM (#803236)

    Another four step solution:
    1. step to the left
    2. step to the right
    3. step forward
    4. pirouette

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday February 19 2019, @12:20AM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday February 19 2019, @12:20AM (#803261) Journal

    Ah, so now we'll burn the house down buried in "educational material".

    Use the tax revenue to fight climate change by funding educational materials that raise awareness about the problem

    :-) Which will be streamed in 4K. I like that. Reminds me of that thing that said *Why do we kill people who kill people to prove that killing people is wrong?*

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