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on Tuesday February 19 2019, @05:14PM
from the how-many-candidates-are-there-now? dept.
from the how-many-candidates-are-there-now? dept.
"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)........is launching a second run for the White House in 2020." breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/19/bernie-sanders-2020-bid
"Reaction to the news was split......with some supporting the 77-year-old and others upset with the move." foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-pokes-fun-at-bernie-sanders-2020-announcement-as-reaction-splits-on-candidacy
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(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday February 19 2019, @05:50PM (19 children)
It's a hot take. Trump is pretty unpopular and Democrats have been gradually enraged by the nightmare scenario they thought couldn't happen. Trump can lean on the economic numbers for now, unless something bad happens in the next year and a half.
Also, 22 Republicans are defending Senate seats vs. only 12 Democrats. You could see a situation where Trump gets re-elected, Democrats control the Senate, and the House goes to either party.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Tuesday February 19 2019, @06:14PM
Good for TV ratings and the tabloids, right?
*sigh* If only the non voters would get up and vote the GOP/DNC out. They could it on their own, they are a majority block.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19 2019, @06:28PM
I get that you can't walk around in San Francisco in a MAGA hat without risking violence. That isn't America.
Most of the country loves him. The economy seals the deal. There is no hope for an opponent unless there is a massive crash. Clearly, the strategy will be to convince people that things aren't really as good as they seem, or even to find some way to cause a real crash.
Congress could indeed go 4 different ways.
(Score: 3, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 19 2019, @06:45PM (16 children)
How "unpopular" is Trump, really? No, I'm not talking popularity with the media, or popularity with the party (either party). Trump is actually popular enough with the people who elected him. He's not terribly UNpopular with the population who didn't vote. He's VERY unpopular with those who soak up mainstream media. Ehhhh - toss the polls around to make the case that Trump is unpopular. That's always our gold standard, right? Except, everyone here knows how those polls are manipulated.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19 2019, @07:12PM (4 children)
12%. About the rock bottom of the Bush/Cheney international criminal administration. Demographic overlaps with Kardashian followers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @01:07AM (3 children)
At the same point in the reelection cycle, as of December 31 in the even-numbered year prior to the election year and thus about 1.75 years before the election, we have:
$3.2 million for Bush
$4 million for Obama
$129 million for Trump
That's no 12% or rock bottom, and the Kardashian nonsense has no bearing on the election. There hasn't been much inflation either, so Trump is crushing a Bush-Obama tie by a factor of 30. Sorry not-sorry to burst your bubble, but... we Americans love our President Donald J. Trump.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @01:53AM (1 child)
What does money have to do with anything, unless you are Russian or the NRA?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @04:37PM
I didn't vote for Trump and don't particularly like him, but every time someone brings up the #RussiaRussiaRussia manipulative propaganda talking point, the chance I'll vote for him out of spite increases a tenth of a point.
(Score: 2) by tibman on Thursday February 21 2019, @03:59AM
Stop speaking for all of us. He's a shit american. His nationalism is so fake. He'd never put his life on the line for the country.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19 2019, @08:56PM (10 children)
Ah yes, don't believe anything people say, but totally 100% believe your armchair analysis?
ha ha haaaa
And here I thought you weren't a MAGA dunce, yet you are ALWAYS backing Trump kinda like Fox's "fair and balanced". Uh huh, yup, sure thing pal.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Tuesday February 19 2019, @11:40PM (8 children)
I remember hearing once that preserving your popularity is the most important political job as president.
The rationale is that if the president goes into an election with horrible favorability, his party will get crushed. If he goes in with high favorability, his party will do very well.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 4, Insightful) by deimtee on Wednesday February 20 2019, @12:01PM (7 children)
Trump is actually doing well on that, and strangely enough on credibility.
The media in general has gone so batshit insane that they have lost what credibility they had, and the only people taking notice are the lefties that already believe Trump is literally Hitler.
They (the lefties) scream and moan, and hurl abuse and rocks, and set fires, and any reasonable person looks at that mess and thinks they are obviously insane and both they and the media promoting them can be dismissed. They are so bad that Trump looks reasonable in comparison.
I'll get modded troll or flamebait for this, TDS is real.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Wednesday February 20 2019, @04:50PM (2 children)
As a person who has considered myself a lifelong "lefty" I think we need some clearer labels. It's obvious that corporate Democrats lost their minds (Hillary voters and the MSM), but corporate Dems/MSM are the antithesis of leftward thought. It's also obvious that the regressive-left is dominated by SJW-charicature-types who want to eviscerate the 1A and that they are a dangerous group. But to lump all the people who would like to see something like Bernie's policies given an actual chance and that crony-capitalism be given the boot into those aforementioned groups, is pretty insulting to us -- just as insulting as calling a person with basic conservative values a knight of the KKK.
I don't call Trump voters nazis because it isn't true for the overwhelmingly vast majority of them. Perhaps you could extend the same courtesy to those of us on the left and be a little more discerning.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Wednesday February 20 2019, @08:19PM
Classical Liberals called. They have no sympathy.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Wednesday February 20 2019, @10:27PM
I am not a right winger. Of your mainstream politicians, the closest to my politics would be a somewhat strange mix of Bernie Sanders and Gary Johnson. (but still not very close)
I heartily agree with the need for better labels, and I did refer to the "lefties that already believe Trump is literally Hitler". I did not mean to be insulting to the non-crazy left.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @07:01PM (3 children)
Let's see, we have:
1) Creation of concentration camps, including separating children from parents. [npr.org] (see: The Holocaust [wikipedia.org])
2) Declaring a state of emergency for things which appear to be non-emergencies [soylentnews.org] (see: Reichstag Fire Decree [wikipedia.org])
3) A President who is supported by a vocal, and violent minority [theguardian.com], who are willing to deny anything and everything just because the President says it is "Fake News". (see: the SA [wikipedia.org])
4) A President cosy'ing up to traditional enemies and rejecting traditional allies of the country. (see: Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact [wikipedia.org])
Hmm... Yep. I can't see any similarity at all between Trump and Hitler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 20 2019, @08:53PM
Parents bring the kids along to break into a house, or rob a bank, yeah, their kids will get separated from them.
(Score: 2) by GlennC on Thursday February 21 2019, @01:31AM
So tell me...who did Hitler lose his re-election bid to?
Sorry folks...the world is bigger and more varied than you want it to be. Deal with it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @08:37AM
Using your logic:
A dead skunk in the middle of the road cannot tell the difference between Trump and Hitler.
You cannot tell the difference between Trump and Hitler.
Therefore you are literally a dead skunk in the middle of the road.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday February 20 2019, @05:53PM
Ah yes, don't believe anything people say, but totally 100% believe your armchair analysis?
Damn, it's so tempting to prove these guys wrong but DON'T DO IT!
If they think polls are all fake news and Trump is going to win easily they'll be less likely to vote.