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posted by takyon on Thursday February 21 2019, @03:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the kick-back dept.

Supreme Court curbs power of government to impose heavy fines and seize property

In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled to drastically curb the powers that states and cities have to levy fines and seize property, marking the first time the court has applied the Constitution's ban on excessive fines at the state level.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who returned to the court for the first time in almost two months after undergoing surgery for lung cancer, wrote the majority opinion in the case involving an Indiana man who had his Land Rover seized after he was arrested for selling $385 of heroin.

"Protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history for good reason: Such fines undermine other liberties," Ginsburg wrote. "They can be used, e.g., to retaliate against or chill the speech of political enemies. They can also be employed, not in service of penal purposes, but as a source of revenue."

Also at National Review, SCOTUSblog, and NPR.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @04:41AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @04:41AM (#804377)

    What good are rights if its just a piece of paper?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @04:58AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @04:58AM (#804386)

    Governments exist by the consent of the governed. No government in the world can exist if the people don't contribute to it's continued existence. They may be able to massacre some people or throw some people in prison, but if the people don't go along with it, it's not happening.

    Firearms are of the kind people are allowed to have in the US are just no match for the ones that the military has. But, if enough people refuse to provide resources and material support to the government and the military will fold shortly afterwards. Especially if the military personnel refuse to commit war crimes.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:10AM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:10AM (#804400) Journal

      Firearms are of the kind people are allowed to have in the US are just no match for the ones that the military has.

      So? They don't have to be. There's two factors ignored here. First, asymmetric warfare is a thing. Second, familiarity with firearms means one doesn't require as much training to use to genuine military weapons.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:23AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:23AM (#804403)

        I'm familiar with that, are you? Asymmetric warfare only works by removing the support of the people for the conflict. You're unlikely to kill enough military personnel in that fashion to force a retreat through the body count if they've still got the support of the people where they came from.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:47AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:47AM (#804409)

          Welcome to the rice fields!

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday February 21 2019, @01:58PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 21 2019, @01:58PM (#804498) Journal

          Aif they've still got the support of the people where they came from.

          We've already determined that they don't.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Bot on Thursday February 21 2019, @12:12PM

      by Bot (3902) on Thursday February 21 2019, @12:12PM (#804468) Journal

      meatbags: "Governments exist by the consent of the governed. No government in the world can exist if the people don't contribute to it's continued existence".

      bots: "it appears you have a meatbags infestation, do you want us to do something about it?"

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