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On Friday, the EU Commission published a piece on Medium that suggested that Google has taken over the minds of millions of citizens, rendering them incapable of thinking for themselves in their opposition of Article 13. The piece was later deleted with a note implying that people simply aren't capable of understanding the subtle nuances of the English language.
Last week the European Parliament and European Council agreed on the final text of the EU Copyright Directive.
Supporters of Article 13 say this will lead to a better deal for the entertainment industries at the expense of Google's YouTube, since it will have to obtain proper licenses for content uploaded to platform, while taking responsibility for infringing uploads.
Opponents, on the other hand, believe that the Article 13 proposals will be bad news for the Internet as a whole, since they have the potential to stifle free speech and expression, at the very least.
It's important to note that Article 13 opponents come in all shapes and sizes, some more militant than others. However, last Friday the EU Commission took the 'one size fits all approach' by labeling every dissenting voice as being part of a "mob", one groomed, misinformed and misled by Google. [...]>
I'm not sure who in the world [h]as the expectation that lawmakers be clear and unambiguous in all their communications. But even putting that aside, it might be fun to have a quick game of logical fallacy spotting on both sides of this spat. Alas one might start with some anti-EU-commission bias, thinking that they don't understand how the internet works, as they appear to think that you can "delete" things that have appeared on the internet. Aww, how cute! -- Ed.(FP)
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:41PM (8 children)
That sounds more like Facebook.
Or the Russians?
Or advertisers.
Or politicians.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday February 21 2019, @07:55PM (7 children)
Anyone who'd make that claim to begin with is a deeply fucked up individual. They necessarily see humanity as sheep and themselves as superior beings; there's no other way to justify lines of thought to that effect.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by RandomFactor on Thursday February 21 2019, @08:31PM (1 child)
I don't know, it sounds pretty consistent with how political hacks label all opposing minions these days.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 4, Insightful) by captain normal on Friday February 22 2019, @01:45AM
It also looks eerily like Ajit Pai dismissing millions of comments on net neutrality last year.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @09:50PM (3 children)
Yep, Google, et al, take nothing. It is all freely given to them. Actually we pay them to "take" it, hundreds of dollars for a very nice looking pocket locator with a microphone and camera that record everything. (You have to assume that.) The only issue here is personal lack of self control, and the high rewards and profits (for the lawyers) of passing blame
But people are kinda sheepish, the herding instinct runs deep. It does indeed frequently overwhelm rational thought. But that's what self control is all about, keeping the rational above all else.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday February 22 2019, @03:05AM (2 children)
That's a trait we all share. If you don't find yourself fighting that predisposition constantly, you're surrendering to it without noticing. The answer is to show this to people rather than believing you're so superior you should control their lives for them.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @06:26PM (1 child)
The answer is to show this to people
Yes, we are doing that, but we bump into the old *leading a horse to water* thing. I won't force them to drink, but I will mock their silly frivolous complaints when they could just use their super powers.
What's that song about living your life in chains when you don't even know you have the key?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday February 23 2019, @03:13AM
Won't do anyone any good to mock them. Do it to them and you make an enemy without gaining anything. Do it to yourself and the only one at all altered is you.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 21 2019, @10:28PM
It's entirely possible that someone can feel that way yet believe they're maybe slightly better at best.
People are fucking retards