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posted by FatPhil on Thursday February 21 2019, @06:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the mob-rules dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

On Friday, the EU Commission published a piece on Medium that suggested that Google has taken over the minds of millions of citizens, rendering them incapable of thinking for themselves in their opposition of Article 13. The piece was later deleted with a note implying that people simply aren't capable of understanding the subtle nuances of the English language.

Last week the European Parliament and European Council agreed on the final text of the EU Copyright Directive.

Supporters of Article 13 say this will lead to a better deal for the entertainment industries at the expense of Google's YouTube, since it will have to obtain proper licenses for content uploaded to platform, while taking responsibility for infringing uploads.

Opponents, on the other hand, believe that the Article 13 proposals will be bad news for the Internet as a whole, since they have the potential to stifle free speech and expression, at the very least.

It's important to note that Article 13 opponents come in all shapes and sizes, some more militant than others. However, last Friday the EU Commission took the 'one size fits all approach' by labeling every dissenting voice as being part of a "mob", one groomed, misinformed and misled by Google. [...]>

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/eu-commission-deletes-article-13-post-because-mob-understood-it-incorrectly-190218/

I'm not sure who in the world [h]as the expectation that lawmakers be clear and unambiguous in all their communications. But even putting that aside, it might be fun to have a quick game of logical fallacy spotting on both sides of this spat. Alas one might start with some anti-EU-commission bias, thinking that they don't understand how the internet works, as they appear to think that you can "delete" things that have appeared on the internet. Aww, how cute! -- Ed.(FP)


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by tangomargarine on Thursday February 21 2019, @08:45PM (3 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday February 21 2019, @08:45PM (#804700)

    I think we've established that Disney and other corporations who own the IP that caused the laws to be life of the creator + 70 years can go fuck themselves.

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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday February 21 2019, @09:32PM (2 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday February 21 2019, @09:32PM (#804719) Journal

    Where's the incentive for them to do so? Their puppets are reelected to congress, the box office is bursting at the seams. What is there to change? Except to demand more?

    Well, hopefully, this is significant, still gotta vote these bastards out to prevent further attempts.

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    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday February 22 2019, @04:43PM (1 child)

      by tangomargarine (667) on Friday February 22 2019, @04:43PM (#805127)

      I didn't make my point super clearly: what I meant was "depends on who you ask" is a rather silly thing to say in this context.

      If I have an apple and you punch me and take it from me, why should we value your opinion on who should have the apple? Of course you're going to say it should be yours.

      Granted that's a somewhat obtuse analogy, but hey. If we broaden this discussion to the RIAA, that's basically what they do to artists.

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      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday February 22 2019, @07:46PM

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday February 22 2019, @07:46PM (#805271) Journal

        what I meant was "depends on who you ask" is a rather silly thing to say in this context.

        No, it's precisely the thing to say. Cui bono?

        If I have an apple and you punch me and take it from me, why should we value your opinion on who should have the apple?

        Well, the Apple thief was voted into office many times over, so I have to assume his opinion is highly valued. How else can it be taken?

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