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posted by martyb on Friday February 22 2019, @05:18AM   Printer-friendly
from the keep-your-friends-close-and-your-enemies-closer? dept.

An article at vice.com reports The Number of U.S. Hate Groups Keeps Surging, Largely Thanks to Young, White men:

The number of hate groups nationwide reached a record high in 2018, driven partly by the persistent growth of white nationalist groups catering to young, college-aged men.

There are currently 1,020 active hate groups in America — up from 954 in 2017, and 917 the previous year, according to an annual tally by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). The new, young face of hate emerged from the shadows during the 2016 election and organized through a shared language of memes and under the banner of the “alt-right.” Many hailed then-candidate Donald Trump, with his hard-line views on immigration, as a hero. In celebration of his election, the alt-right’s one-time de facto leader Richard Spencer led a room full of young men in suits to give Nazi salutes.

Since then, Spencer and other prominent actors, entangled in costly lawsuits and tired of being heckled by anti-fascist protesters, have faded into relative obscurity.

At the same time, groups like Identity Evropa — whose khaki-clad members were a formidable presence at the violent “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017— have proliferated and expanded their reach by setting up new chapters across the country. Patriot Front also grew significantly in 2018 after splintering from Vanguard America, the group linked to the 19-year-old neo-Nazi who rammed his car into a crowd of protesters during the Charlottesville rally and killed Heather Heyer.


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 22 2019, @04:42PM (12 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 22 2019, @04:42PM (#805123) Journal

    Ahhhhh, poor little 'Zumi, you haven't kept up. At least twice in these pages, I have clearly stated that if I lived in New York City, and subject to that "Stop and Frisk" bullshit, I would be in the middle of an insurrection.

    Stop trying to paint me as hating black people.

    If anything, I have begun to respect Blacks and Latinos more, in relation to white people. I've never met a self-loathing Black or Latino. They tend to demand a level of respect, unlike so many whites.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday February 22 2019, @05:28PM (11 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday February 22 2019, @05:28PM (#805167) Journal
    That's fucking twisted, but whatever gets you there. I'd rather you be right for the wrong reasons than plain old wrong.

    So I take it you're going to retract that giant rant about how you refuse to let your kids become slaves to black and brown people? Quoted in full:

    Alright then -

    A civil war will be uglier than most liberals have ever dreamed. Maybe uglier than the war-happy conservative capitalists have dreamed, as well.

    But, it might be better than allowing the progressives to have control. The so-called left is hardly any more left than the R's are, but they are strongly into authoritarianism. That left makes me look silly as hell with my claims of being an authoritarian. The REAL difference between me, and them, is the legitimacy of authority. If I recognize an authority as being legitimate, then I respect it. If I don't recognize an authority as legitimate, I fight it.

    Your left wants to create it's own authority by force. There is no legitimacy to either the force, or the authority which they desire. None.

    But, if the right stands by, and watches the "left" proceed, it's possible that the progressives could win. Chances are slim, but the possibility exists.

    Yes, I'd rather see twenty million dead liberals lying in the streets, than to see their progressive heros taking over this country. And, I'll willingly sacrifice five million dead conservatives and independents to put a stop to the progressives.

    The tree of life must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots, from time to time.

    And, welcome to reality, where most important decisions by nations are settled by force. As it has been for tens of thousands of years, so it will be for tens of thousands of years into the future.

    Have you ever considered the dystopias portrayed in much of science fiction? Have you never imagined one of those dystopias, in which death is preferable to living? The dystopia being offered to us by the progressives is one in which a child can be punished, and branded for life, if he so much as notices that his own skin is not the same color as that of his teacher, or one of his class mates. In this computer age, any "deviant" behaviour will be documented, put into a database, and NEVER forgotten.

    Progressives promise a number of things, which I fear, and despise, with their racial inequality ranking high. "People of color" vs "white and Asian". It's already real, it has made it into headlines. Follow that to it's logical conclusion - if you're brown, or black, you get a leg up in education, employment, in everything. If you're white, or Asian, you get shit on, and you're lucky if you can ever get a job cleaning septic tanks, or collecting garbage.

    The party, as well as the progressives, have forgotten Martin Luther King, who had a dream. They've abandoned his dream. Today, they don't want equality, they want vengeance.

    And, I, for one, am not willing that my grandchildren should be cast into some third-rate citizen role, to make those brown or black people happy. I side with King - my great grandchildren should compete with black, white, brown, and Asian for their place in life. And, the best man/woman for the job should win the job.

    Political correctness? I've fought that bullshit since I first heard of it. It was a Soviet construction - if you were in good graces with the party, then you were politically correct. Fuck PC. Seriously, just fuck PC. Progressives promise to enslave my descendants, at the expense of brown and black people. Just fuck them.

    Twenty million dead progressives? Make it fifty million - it's all the same to me. A future with slavery in it looks pretty damned bleak, no matter whether it's my descendants, or yours, or whoever's. We had a war, ~150 years ago, over a number of issues, including slavery. Today, "liberals" want to go back and explore slavery. Kill 'em all, and let God sort them out.

    The bunch of dumb bastards in charge of the Democrat party need to pull their heads out of their asses, BEFORE they spark that civil war. Once the first few shots are fired, there will be no mercy.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 22 2019, @05:41PM (10 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 22 2019, @05:41PM (#805178) Journal

      You're still obtuse as you can possibly make yourself. No, I'm retracting nothing. I don't expect any black man to submit to a white man - and neither do I expect any white man to submit to a black.

      Which part of Martin Luther King's dream do you fail to understand? The bit about a man being judged by his character, rather than the color of his skin? Go read that a few times, and get back to me. My children aren't going to be pushed down, or pushed aside, as some kind of punishment for what other white men have done in the past. You will see your millions of dead lying in the streets before that happens.

      And, that's kinda the whole theme of this article.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday February 22 2019, @06:31PM (7 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday February 22 2019, @06:31PM (#805211) Journal

        You ought to actually read King Jr. in a bit more depth. He said a lot more than the "I have a dream" speech, and in particular, was calling for the kind of reforms that give you the horrors today under the heading of "democratic socialism." Your fallacy is in believing that the playing field is level to begin with. It manifestly is not.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 22 2019, @07:20PM (6 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 22 2019, @07:20PM (#805254) Journal

          I may just do that this weekend - I have nothing planned. I already know that King was a Republican. He was smart enough to know that Democrats and the KKK were almost synonymous. I already know that King was anti-socialist, and/or anti-communist. Maybe I should dig into his teachings. Unlike some other people around here, I'm not too old to learn.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @07:58PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @07:58PM (#805281)

            Jesus fucking cHRiSt yer dumb!

            "Although the names stayed the same, the platforms of the two parties reversed each other in the mid-20th century, due in large part to white ‘Dixiecrats’ flight out of the Democratic Party and into the Republican Party after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964," she said."

            So you are correct sort-of, but if MLK was alive today he'd tell the GOP to go fuck itself. Do you even brain bro?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @10:59PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @10:59PM (#805360)

              white ‘Dixiecrats’ flight out of the Democratic Party and into the Republican Party after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

              Then you should have no problem listing them all by name. I'll start:

              1. Strom Thurmond
              2. ...

              How much sense does it make that Dixiecrats would join the party with ~80% support for the civil rights act? The party that voted 100% on the 13th, 94% on the 14th and 100% on the 15th was such a lightning rod for Southern racist Dixiecrats that only one of them ever switched. Most dixiecrats like KKK "cyclops" and mentor to Hillary Clinton remained lifelong democrats.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 23 2019, @02:43AM (1 child)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 23 2019, @02:43AM (#805442) Journal

              Keep telling yourself that. The more you tell a lie, the truer it becomes.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 23 2019, @07:24AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 23 2019, @07:24AM (#805499)

                You're really making yourself look stupid.

          • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday February 22 2019, @09:59PM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Friday February 22 2019, @09:59PM (#805341) Journal

            I already know that King was a Republican.

            But, Runaway, you complete and total moran, we were talking about Martin Luther King, Jr. PhD, not Steve King [nytimes.com], Republican racist.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @10:35PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @10:35PM (#805353)
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @06:32PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @06:32PM (#805212)

        You are being judged on your character. You offer plenty of nice platitudes for how you don't care about race, but every once in a while your racism peaks out. We have memories, we see your bullshit. Reverse victimhood is just as bad as reverse racism, and your response to liberals "winning" would be civil war? Your crazy is so flagrant it really is difficult to make you see it.

        Let us start with the end of your post -

        And, that's kinda the whole theme of this article.

        That made me read the article and no where in it do they advocate for anyone to "be pushed down, or pushed aside, as some kind of punishment for what other white men have done in the past." The only policy that comes close is Affirmative Action. You'll find some sympathy over that but if you want true support then you'll have to give your support against voter suppression and minorities murdered by cops. If you refuse to address those problems then I will have little sympathy for your feelings of persecution. I doubt you can bridge that ideological gap because you're a brainwashed conservative who posts a ridiculous amount of propaganda points and you ignore all inconvenient truths.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 23 2019, @11:44AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 23 2019, @11:44AM (#805539)

        No, I'm retracting nothing.

        So, it's still the Runaway1956 Race War, eh? Well, good luck with that! And remember, Liberals are better shots, they don't slobber at the mouth and fog up the scope so much.