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To fix the potholes and crumbling roads, federal, state and local governments rely on fuel taxes, which raise more than US$80 billion a year and pay for around three-quarters of what the U.S. spends on building new roads and maintaining them.
I recently purchased an electric car, the Tesla Model 3. While swerving down a particularly rutted highway in New York, the economist in me began to wonder, what will happen to the roads as fewer and fewer cars run on gasoline? Who will pay to fix the streets?
Will toll roads become universal to bridge the funding gap?
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How Electric Cars Could Make America's Crumbling Roads Even Worse
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Farkus888 on Tuesday February 26 2019, @03:21PM (18 children)
I could have sworn I've seen you ranting about privacy before. I don't want the government having direct access to GPS of my every movement. It is bad enough now when all they have to do is ask Google nicely.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 26 2019, @04:01PM (11 children)
That is always the solution from these people: more spying and more taxes. No matter what the problem, it can be used as an excuse for those two activities.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday February 26 2019, @04:17PM (10 children)
I always suspected Runaway of being a lefty who hasn't yet gotten out of the closet. (large grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday February 26 2019, @04:40PM (2 children)
So we get to tax one of the most environmentally dangerous parts of the vehicle and give a market solution to replacing them? Sounds pretty good idea.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday February 26 2019, @04:43PM
Sorry, resized browser to watch your tire video and replied to the wrong one of your posts.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday February 26 2019, @04:47PM
Well, it is one, isn't it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 26 2019, @04:52PM (2 children)
I can't get out of the closet because your large ass is in the way. Move over!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 26 2019, @05:05PM (1 child)
Lame
(Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 26 2019, @05:16PM
He's lame? That's why he doesn't get out of the way?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 26 2019, @05:09PM (3 children)
It has nothing to do with left vs right. They are on the same side. It is republicrat authoritarians vs the rest of us.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday February 26 2019, @05:14PM
Yeah, maybe... but I can't make fun of Runaway based on what you said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 26 2019, @08:06PM (1 child)
what kind of dumb bitch modded the post troll? oh, that's right, the typical suck ass american voter.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 27 2019, @08:03AM
The kind of bitch that just modded your protest at being modded troll, you troll biatch! You don't understand what we do here, do you? Well, fuck off, looser!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 26 2019, @05:00PM (5 children)
Yes, I rant about privacy. But, the fact is, they're watching us anyway - might as well make some use out of it.
Actually, though, it isn't necessary to log every mile you travel, and report every mile to the gubbermint. The vehicle has multiple onboard computers anyway. Give them the software to work this stuff out. The only detail necessary in your report to the state looks about like this:
Alabama: 2356 miles
Alaska: 0
Arizona 0
Arkansas 780 miles
California 0
Colorado 0
Connecticut 0
Delaware 0
Florida 9128 miles
Georgia 10575 miles
etc and so forth
Trucking companies make a similar report, but the numbers are much, MUCH bigger. I've never heard of any of the states auditing a trucking company, trying to get an extra thousand miles worth of taxes out of them. It's pretty damned tough to chase down those last few miles! Set up the software, then trust it to do the job properly.
(Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday February 26 2019, @07:41PM
The weigh stations that trucks have to drive through record the DOT numbers of commercial vehicles, so states have first pass rough data on it.
With electronic driving records, trucking companies already have high quality miles per vehicle/driver/state.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 26 2019, @11:25PM (3 children)
That makes sense, but instead of recording mileage, which is only a mediocre proxy for road wear, the car should record kilowatt hours. The amount of energy a car uses to move is a good proxy for road wear.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 27 2019, @12:23AM (2 children)
Bullshit.
The only deficiency of mileage is that it doesn't include vehicle weight, which is by far the biggest factor in road wear. And at least for cars and light trucks, this is trivially accounted for by considering the vehicle's weight from the registration database. (For commercial trucks, on the other hand, the actual vehicle weight may vary a factor of two or more depending on loading.)
Power usage isn't an improvement, as it has a lot more to do with acceleration habits and traffic anticipation than with vehicle weight, and these have no significant relation to road wear.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 27 2019, @08:07AM (1 child)
Because energy is never about mass X velocity. so that would have nothing to do with . . . are you always this stupid, or only when you post on the intertubes?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @12:16AM
First, you need mass raised to the 4th power or so to reflect actual road wear, so "mass X velocity" won't cut it.
If we want to get pedantic, road wear is related to axle weight4, not mass, but since the current crop of EVs generally have 2 axles and more-or-less symmetric weight distributions, that's practically a constant factor; it's only worth worrying about the distinction when freight trucks start going electric in any kind of scale.
Pretty much:
So yeah, at least in the context of EV energy consumption, energy is never about "mass X velocity".
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