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posted by chromas on Tuesday February 26 2019, @07:09PM   Printer-friendly
from the löylyä-lissää dept.

A recent report on climate simulations show that global warming could break up stratocumulus clouds[$], letting in more energy as High CO2 levels break up stratocumulus cloud decks, once the levels rise above 1,200 ppm. Stratocumulus provide no precipitation but do cover about 20% of the low-latitude oceans and are especially prevalent in the subtropics, cooling by providing shade. If they disappear then, according to calculations, the added sunlight hitting the ground or ocean would increase temperatures by over 8°C.

Now, new findings reported today in the journal Nature Geoscience make the case that the effects of cloud loss are dramatic enough to explain ancient warming episodes like the PETM — and to precipitate future disaster. Climate physicists at the California Institute of Technology performed a state-of-the-art simulation of stratocumulus clouds, the low-lying, blankety kind that have by far the largest cooling effect on the planet. The simulation revealed a tipping point: a level of warming at which stratocumulus clouds break up altogether. The disappearance occurs when the concentration of CO2 in the simulated atmosphere reaches 1,200 parts per million — a level that fossil fuel burning could push us past in about a century, under “business-as-usual” emissions scenarios. In the simulation, when the tipping point is breached, Earth’s temperature soars 8 degrees Celsius, in addition to the 4 degrees of warming or more caused by the CO2 directly.

Once clouds go away, the simulated climate “goes over a cliff,” said Kerry Emanuel, a climate scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. A leading authority on atmospheric physics, Emanuel called the new findings “very plausible,” though, as he noted, scientists must now make an effort to independently replicate the work.

To imagine 12 degrees of warming, think of crocodiles swimming in the Arctic and of the scorched, mostly lifeless equatorial regions during the PETM. If carbon emissions aren’t curbed quickly enough and the tipping point is breached, “that would be truly devastating climate change,” said Caltech’s Tapio Schneider, who performed the new simulation with Colleen Kaul and Kyle Pressel.

Huber said the stratocumulus tipping point helps explain the volatility that’s evident in the paleoclimate record. He thinks it might be one of many unknown instabilities in Earth’s climate. “Schneider and co-authors have cracked open Pandora’s box of potential climate surprises,” he said, adding that, as the mechanisms behind vanishing clouds become clear, “all of a sudden this enormous sensitivity that is apparent from past climates isn’t something that’s just in the past. It becomes a vision of the future.”


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday February 27 2019, @03:42AM (5 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 27 2019, @03:42AM (#807452) Journal

    I wouldn't be typing this on my garage computer without those adjustments to the the local environment that I can have control over.

    Because many bird species build their nest and insulate it against bad weather and many animals dig themselves a burrow - i.e. demonstrate the same level of "control over the environment" as you do.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday February 27 2019, @01:29PM (3 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 27 2019, @01:29PM (#807582) Journal

    Because many bird species build their nest and insulate it against bad weather and many animals dig themselves a burrow

    And humans make an advanced technological society that allows them to pack 4 orders of magnitude more people in a space than a hunter gather society could manage. For example, Kwun Tong, a part of Hong Kong packs 57k people [www.gov.hk] per square km while hunter gather societies manage somewhere around 3 people [persquaremile.com] per square km.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday February 27 2019, @01:56PM (2 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 27 2019, @01:56PM (#807593) Journal

      And humans make an advanced technological society that allows them to pack 4 orders of magnitude more people in a space than a hunter gather society could manage.

      It is still local environ adjusting.

      Hang on.... You aren't actually saying that "humans manage to alter the environment at planetary scale", are you now, khallow?
      Because if you do, you are in a very dangerous territory my friend - it's only one step away from admitting both AGW and reversing it are in fact possible. You know, like in "Anthropogenic GW". Just think the devastating impact this admission may have to your psyche, then slooowly, sloooowly back away, there be dragons here.

      (large grin)

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      • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Thursday February 28 2019, @03:10AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 28 2019, @03:10AM (#807955) Journal

        It is still local environ adjusting.

        The global trade and logistic chain that makes that possible is not, however.

        Hang on.... You aren't actually saying that "humans manage to alter the environment at planetary scale", are you now, khallow?

        Clearly I have never said anything remotely like that! For example

        [jimtheowl:] the current area of urbanization is 'less than' 1% of the Earth's surface

        [khallow:]The actual land area used for human activities is far greater than that. You have about a third devoted to agriculture and pasture land. You have somewhere around 5% used for the road system.

        Or here [soylentnews.org] where I deny multiple times (five cited) that global climate change is a thing. Such as:

        I agree that global warming is happening right now and that it's to a great degree caused by humans.

        Or the numerous times I rank [soylentnews.org] global habitat destruction as a bigger problem than global climate change.

        As to the Leap Manifesto, it completely ignores that there are seven billion people on this planet and not all of them have the standard of living or relatively low fertility that Canada enjoys. The Manifesto merely assumes that global warming is the most important problem out there, ignoring the more important problems such as overpopulation, poverty, corruption, and arable land and habitat destruction. Petroleum remains a tool for successfully fixing bigger problems than global warming. It would be good to remember this.

        Clearly a denial that humans have any sort of global impact at all. Clearly.

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday February 28 2019, @03:46AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 28 2019, @03:46AM (#807963) Journal

          Updated. TA.

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 27 2019, @02:39PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 27 2019, @02:39PM (#807605)

    I don't see those birds making coffee-flavored milk beverages.