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posted by martyb on Thursday February 28 2019, @05:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the Honeypot? dept.

CNet:

Review site Rotten Tomatoes is instituting some changes, leading many to believe it's responding to the recent controversy over the site's Captain Marvel page. But Paul Yanover, president of Fandango, which owns the site, told CNET that's not the whole story.

In case you were snapped away by Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War, and thus missed the recent controversy, here's a recap. Captain Marvel doesn't come out until March 8, but users were already leaving negative comments about the film on Rotten Tomatoes, a process dubbed "review bombing." Many recent comments seemed to come from those who are angry at star Brie Larson.

The movie review site has removed users' ability to leave reviews or to indicate they are not interested in seeing a film [EDIT: before it comes out].


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:23PM (29 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:23PM (#808236)

    The quoted comment is her backtracking. Here's one of her original comments:

    [Audiences] are not allowed enough chances to read public discourse on these films by the people that the films were made for. I do not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about [A] Wrinkle in Time. It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to women of color, to biracial women, to teen women of color, to teens that are biracial.

    She is making it clear that white males need not see or review these woke films. But somehow you are "insecure" if you refuse to blow $15 to see a movie associated with this kind of rhetoric.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:44PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @06:44PM (#808253)

    That is not what those words mean, but your interpretation of it does mean you are insecure.

    The targeted demographics for superhero stories used to be young white men. The demographics are changing and so media is changing along with it. She obviously cares more about the historically under served crowds and is tired of middle aged white guys shitting on things because it doesn't meet their expectations.

    Perhaps your opinions are 100% valid and not based in misogyny or racism, but if you've paid attention you'll notice a distinct trend in criticisms of recent movies such as Ghostbusters. It is not surprising in the least that a corporate site would want to limit a tsunami of racist/misogynist shitposting.

    Not watching another cookie cutter superhero movie does not make you insecure, but shitposting because the creators are trying to reach a different demographic?? Yaaa, get bent and wake me when there is actual discrimination to worry about.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:02PM (18 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:02PM (#808272)

      If you are an old white dude, and you criticize A Wrinkle in Time, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, etc., then your opinion does not matter. That is an accurate interpretation of what she said. She may have softened her publicly expressed views since, but it is what she really believes.

      It is fine if she supports minorities reviewing films, not that they need her support. The doors are wide open with sites like Facebook and YouTube allowing anybody to act like Roger Ebert. The people involved in press tours are sycophants anyway.

      Regarding Ghostbusters, there's blame on many sides [hollywoodreporter.com].

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:21PM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:21PM (#808288)

        Shitty behavior from the "other side" does not excuse shitty behavior on yours. Besides, that linked story is hardly on the same level as the racist fuckwits who cried about Ghostbusters.

        If only the things you get outraged over actually seemed worth the attention....

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:31PM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:31PM (#808298)

          There will always be an assortment of anonymous trolls for every little thing. I will criticize the rich and batshit crazy actors instead. They should know better.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:40PM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:40PM (#808310)

            I disagree that her complaint of another reboot is "batshit crazy" but your timing is suspect. Kinda like Trump's "fine people on both sides". That just makes it seem like you're equivocating to generate support for your less popular opinions.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:55PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:55PM (#808322)

              You must be with the PR firm. Good job defending RT and even bringing Trump into it! They offer good plans or do you shill for free?

              • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:04PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:04PM (#808329)

                $0.87 per post plus a generous bandwidth re-imbursement! Trigger bros like you are my bread and butter!!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @05:40AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @05:40AM (#808581)

                  Wow, that's a lot of khallows!

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @01:45PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @01:45PM (#808670)

                No one does it for free. Paid protester is totally a real thing.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @11:40PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @11:40PM (#808459)

              Couldn't go 3 comments without the TDS setting in. We're seriously worried about your mental health, you sick freaks.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @03:06AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @03:06AM (#808538)

                We're seriously worried about your mental health, you sick freaks.

                Hope you'll breath easier knowing that you don't need to worry about our mental health.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @04:38AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @04:38AM (#808573)

                I count the comment you replied to as the 7th in the thread, maybe work on that finger counting before you advance to psychiatry.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @02:44PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @02:44PM (#808688)

            Cam you do it from an actual registered account?

      • (Score: 2) by http on Thursday February 28 2019, @10:55PM (6 children)

        by http (1920) on Thursday February 28 2019, @10:55PM (#808429)

        If you are an old white dude, and you didn't like A Wrinkle in Time, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, etc. because you are not the target audience, then your opinion about the movie does not matter to her.

        FTFY

        Honestly, it's like reading comprehension isn't even taught any more.

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        I browse at -1 when I have mod points. It's unsettling.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @11:59PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @11:59PM (#808469)

          But but but.. shouldn't she be more inclusive, just because it is a negative criticism... after all a person with integrity should be willing to take criticism. Of course some or most (no idea on ratio) are trolls, but discounting an entire demographic, 40-year-old-white-males, because a small fraction of it commented on an internet site, strikes me as a person who is pretty prejudiced.

          I'm a 40 year male, just not white. I wonder what her views are on my "kind".

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @09:24AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @09:24AM (#808612)

            Your kind is shit because you are male.

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @01:49PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @01:49PM (#808672)

            My friend and I watched Tangled. He had downloaded it because he thought it was a gore movie with lots of blood and violence. We enjoyed it very much.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @03:06PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @03:06PM (#808699)

              Well, a fair amount of violence anyway.

              Did he throw up when they kissed?

              • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @06:56PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @06:56PM (#808852)

                Nope, we genuinely enjoyed it. We were smoking weed, but we would have done that even if it had been a splatter film.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 02 2019, @05:06AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 02 2019, @05:06AM (#809069)

                  Watch "Zipang" while drunk or stoned :)

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:25PM (5 children)

    by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 28 2019, @07:25PM (#808292)

    So? The film (and the book for that matter) was aimed at younger people. Some may not like that Disney made the family in the story bi-racial, but I've never paid attention to stuff like that if it didn't detract from a story.

    I don't think she intended to say that white males need to be excluded, and her clarification confirms this. She said that there needs to be more reviews from the demographics of the target audience. I'm a sci-fi geek; should I give a damn whether some reviewer who likes artsy-fartsy films likes a sci-fi movie or not? I can't count the number of movies that got poor reviews that I went and enjoyed. I still remember a TV Guide reviewer complaining about Tim Russ' "wooden and emotionless" portrayal of Tuvok on Star Trek Voyager.

    If you don't want to go see those movies, then don't. Quit trying to tell me that I shouldn't because you're butthurt about your misinterpretation of what some actress said. Stupid battle of the sexes; makes my ass tired.

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    The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:51PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @08:51PM (#808353)

      Stupid battle of the sexes; makes my ass tired.

      Then switch places! DUH!

      • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday March 01 2019, @05:02PM

        by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 01 2019, @05:02PM (#808787)

        That was worth a chuckle... +1

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        The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @09:46PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 28 2019, @09:46PM (#808389)

      you may not pay attention (that's a good little slave) but you are being brainwashed. soon you will be repeating shit from stupid brainwashed bitches like brie larson talking about the poor biracial "persons of color" like they are fucking bald eagles.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Friday March 01 2019, @04:59PM (1 child)

        by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 01 2019, @04:59PM (#808786)

        At the risk of feeding a troll, I will just say this: If being open-minded and inclusive is what it means to be "brainwashed", then the world could use a good brainwashing.

        We need to start looking at each other and see all of the things that we have in common instead of pointing out what makes us different.

        --
        The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 02 2019, @02:09AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 02 2019, @02:09AM (#809036)

          Why is there a dark elf amongst the light elves in the Shannara Chronicles?

          I spent time looking for why and trying to puzzle it out. Never found an answer. Is she supposed to be a generic throwback? A mutant? Half human with a black father? It's so strange.

          Apparently I am racist just for noticing .

          Elves mind you. In a mythical setting.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @01:31AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @01:31AM (#808502)

    The movie went from 'hey that movie looks pretty cool' to 'meh' PDQ.

    The movie going public is fickle. Hearing from a bigot misogynist how she thinks about me does not make me think 'oh I must be wrong'. That is gas-lighting, I have enough of that in my real life.

    A wrinkle in time bombed because it frankly is a fairly terrible story aimed at 12 year olds. I have read the books. I have seen the movies. They have yet to make me think 'I need to see that again'. The story is just not that compelling.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @02:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 01 2019, @02:47PM (#808690)

      Dude, the movie hadn't been released yet. How did you get your hands on a copy?

  • (Score: 2) by DutchUncle on Monday March 04 2019, @08:54PM

    by DutchUncle (5370) on Monday March 04 2019, @08:54PM (#809973)

    If someone says a movie "wasn't made for me", usually they're talking about a kid's movie like Minions. But you aren't going to get a lot of haters going to the Minions page to waste their time writing how childish it is. OTOH people seem to think it's fun to trash things that other people like, rather than just ignore it and just go like something else instead.