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posted by martyb on Sunday March 03 2019, @06:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the Space-Force-or-Space-Farce? dept.

The Washington Post has an editorial by Vice President Pence, asking Congress to pass our National Defense Authorization Act for, or of 2020. Which will create a 6th branch of the United States military, called the United States Space Force. It's going to be part of the Air Force, but, this one won't be in the air. It will be in space. And there's no air, there. An excerpt:

Under this proposal, the Space Force would be within the Air Force, similar to the placement of the Marine Corps within the Navy. More than any other organization, the Air Force has been at the vanguard of building the world’s best military space programs. So, creating the Space Force within the Air Force is the best way to minimize duplication of effort and eliminate bureaucratic inefficiencies.

Just as the Air Force began within the Army before becoming a separate military department, so too will this first step in establishing the Space Force pave the way for a separate military department in the future. The Space Force is the next and the natural evolution of U.S. supremacy in space.

Also at Chicago Tribune.


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 03 2019, @11:30PM (6 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 03 2019, @11:30PM (#809600) Journal

    Uhhhh - how so? D-Day didn't require any of the services to surrender their separate commands to another service. D-Day epitomized coordination and cooperation between the services. An Army officer had overall command of the operation, and Air and Naval officers subordinated their commands to that Army officer, voluntarily. All subordinate officers and enlisted fell into line, and carried out their missions. How have I forgotten D-Day? Didn't the President of the US and the Pentagon hold authority over each and every officer, enlisted, and civilian involved in the war effort before, during, and after D-Day? Every commissioned officer in all of the services are commissioned by the same Congress, are they not?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @12:05AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @12:05AM (#809615)

    The Army is capable of amphibious operations as are the Marines. You didn't go to Canoe U did you?

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 04 2019, @12:25AM (4 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 04 2019, @12:25AM (#809620) Journal

      *rolleyes*

      How does the Army and the Marines get to the amphib landing? Hint: It's an entirely naval operation, until the infantry leaves the confines of the Gator Navy hulls. At which point the Army or Marine commander assumes command. And, yes, that shore commander assumes command of Naval Gunfire Support (NGFS) and logistics. He doesn't get full command of the task force, but he does get a nice chunk of it. There's established protocol for all of that.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @12:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @12:46AM (#809630)

        Ohboy! Don't you miss the days we were all fighting Nazis, side by side? Punching those bastards in the face! Loved it, no matter what branch or nation of the Alliance you were in!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @01:10AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @01:10AM (#809638)

        Now you're forgetting the role that the Coast Guard had in piloting some of those landing craft.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @01:27AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 04 2019, @01:27AM (#809642)

        Don't recall any Marines bring involved in D-Day.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 04 2019, @09:18AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 04 2019, @09:18AM (#809729) Journal

          I won't say that there weren't any Marines there - but they certainly did their share of landings across the Pacific. Given the choice to participate in the Normandy landing, Iwo Jima, or Guadalcanal, a rational man would probably just flip a coin. I can't see anything to recommend one above the others. Probably, there were fewer biting insects and reptiles at Normandy. Malaria and other jungle diseases would be less of a problem at Normandy.