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posted by chromas on Friday March 08 2019, @05:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the didn't-inhale dept.

[...] Musk has a top-secret level clearance because the company he founded and leads is certified to launch military spy satellites for the US government.

The review underscores the ramifications of Musk's appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast in September, where he took a puff of a marijuana blunt during the livestream. Musk's appearance on the program didn't sit well with NASA's top officials, who earlier this month ordered a review of the workplace cultures of SpaceX and Boeing.

NASA's contracts with the aerospace companies -- worth a combined total of $6.8 billion -- require both companies "maintain a program for achieving a drug-and alcohol-free workforce."


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  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday March 08 2019, @09:04PM (6 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday March 08 2019, @09:04PM (#811732)

    The War on Drugs is a huge waste of money, weed doesn't really hurt anything, and it being illegal is a convenient excuse to harass people they don't like. Just fucking stop

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  • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday March 08 2019, @09:40PM (3 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Friday March 08 2019, @09:40PM (#811768)

    Yeah, I have to mostly agree, and I've felt that way for a very long time.

    Actually I don't advocate most illegal drug use, but living in a war-torn society is worse IMHO. I would vote to completely stop the war, except I would ramp up the border crossing searches- some huge illegal drug shipments have been discovered in the past few weeks, and I have to wonder how much they don't find.

    From what I believe to be true, it's more the money and distribution system that's the problem. So many gangs, killings, etc.

    Also, from what I remember to be true regarding security clearances: the US govt. isn't as worried about drug use as it is the addiction, that someone can be bought, manipulated, connects with evil-doers, drug pushers, etc. They worry very much about debt, people who might do stupid things that could put them in debt, esp. to bad people who could coerce / extort the secrets.

    • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Friday March 08 2019, @10:43PM (2 children)

      by Immerman (3985) on Friday March 08 2019, @10:43PM (#811794)

      Legalize the production and sale of cannabis, avoid taxing them into the ground, and you don't even need the stepped up border searches. It's expensive and dangerous to operate in the black market, and most people have no particular desire to support organized crime Give them an affordable, legal, quality controlled alternative source, and the black market dries up. Heck, even with the outrageous taxes most states are imposing it sounds like the black market is drying up - not completely, but the remaining illegal players are more and more just small-time growers, grey-market resellers, etc. No need for Mexican weed when locally grown stuff is cheap.

      As for your point about security clearances - I can certainly see that being the rationale used, but it's a bad rationale.

      First of all, anyone who needs such clearance almost certainly has the income to support a really devastating range of addictions. Popular drugs just aren't expensive enough to be able to rack up serious debt behind an addiction on a middle-class income.

      Secondly, the only reason other forms of coercion are possible is, like most problems with the black market, because the drugs are illegal. And for a (white) middle-class person, there's not actually a whole lot of problems associated with being caught using illegal drugs - other than losing your security clearance or job. Meaning that the "security" requirement itself is what's creating the problem.

      Thirdly - if you're worried about people acting stupidly under the influence of drugs, then alcohol use should carry the most severe repurcussions.

      And finally, and slightly on a tangent, there's the fact that cannabis is treated radically differently than other drugs when it comes to testing. The vast majority of drugs, common tests will tell you how high you currently are. And frankly, if you're significantly high (or drunk) at work, there's probably pretty good chance you should be fired. With cannabis though, smoking a single cigarette several months ago can still show up on the test at repercussion-inducing levels, depending on your metabolism.

      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday March 09 2019, @01:40AM

        by RS3 (6367) on Saturday March 09 2019, @01:40AM (#811862)

        You're preaching to the choir brother. I wasn't talking about cannabis- it's (finally) on its way to being legalized, and mostly ignored. It's the heroin and cocaine and whatever else they find that I'm talking about, and there are occasionally high-profile cases in the news of wealthy people somehow getting into some kind of big mess on those drugs. I don't follow the stories much nor in detail, partly because I'm so sick of hearing about it. I don't work for the govt. nor contractors nor have anything to do with that world.

      • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday March 09 2019, @01:41AM

        by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday March 09 2019, @01:41AM (#811863)

        Here in Washington State, the weed (and oils, waxes, tinctures, infusions and edibles) are actually cheaper than the street was, I just today got a gram of 93.7% crystal clear oil (looks like thick water) for $45 and a full ounce of 31% Lemon Skunk for $90. The street dealers are mostly gone, they can't compete with a store having 50 varieties of weed, 15 types of waxes and a dozen or so kinds of edibles.

        The black market here is damned near extinct.

        There are 25 recreational weed stores here in Spokane. Medical in Washington is now only a card that allows you to grow your own, buy and transport clones and possess more than an ounce (not on your person, but in your residence).
        They just gave it over to the Liquor Control Board as they had the experience with selling intoxicants rather than creating an entirely new government office to deal with it. By using the existing legal infrastructure they spent very little implementing legalization.

        They did try and do a ridiculous sales tax at the beginning. It got voted out the first election after since the tax was imposed without a vote or public input. So the state didn't make quite as many millions as they anticipated. They are rolling in the tax revenue regardless.

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  • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday March 08 2019, @10:09PM

    by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 08 2019, @10:09PM (#811780)

    "Waste of money? Who told you that? The War on Drugs is a double-plus good thing!" - The Prison and Law Enforcement Industrial Complex

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday March 09 2019, @12:17AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday March 09 2019, @12:17AM (#811834) Journal

    $current_year, weed on schedule 1

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