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posted by chromas on Friday March 08 2019, @07:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the water?-like-out-the-toilet? dept.

Since water is a key ingredient in beer, it being mostly water, polluted water threatens beer quality.

Thursday a group of 59 craft breweries sent a letter to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers opposing the agencies' "Dirty Water Rule" proposal to slash clean water protections for waterways around the country.

These brewers, who are partners in NRDC's Brewers for Clean Water campaign, are standing up for safeguards that protect the sources of clean water on which their businesses depend.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @08:07PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @08:07PM (#811692)

    I have an idea. Let's raise taxes and give the government even more money and power.

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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @08:23PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @08:23PM (#811708)

    Look, two cube sharing ruskies sewing division and discord right before our very eyes.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @08:52PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @08:52PM (#811722)

      Are you saying that wasn't the idea being implied? Why can't these breweries just get reverse osmosis machines like my friend has for his fish tank to purify their own water? That is what I expected them to be doing anyway.

      That said, I am in favor of clean water and most of this "pollution" is probably produced due to making stuff people only buy because they gave up on saving from it constantly inflating away.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by MostCynical on Friday March 08 2019, @10:19PM (3 children)

        by MostCynical (2589) on Friday March 08 2019, @10:19PM (#811783) Journal

        Reverse osmosis is not enough. All the extra filtration adds to the cost of production.

        https://www.lenntech.com/processes/heavy/heavy-metals-removal.htm [lenntech.com]

        https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/25959632.pdf [core.ac.uk]

        https://blog.wychwood-water.com/what-impurities-does-reverse-osmosis-not-remove [wychwood-water.com]

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @10:36PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @10:36PM (#811791)

          If it is enough for these fish it is enough for humans. Aquarium grade is higher quality than human/edible grade.

          From your third link:

          Many pesticides are actually molecularly smaller than water.

          I have no idea what "molecularly smaller" means, but this is the most widely used pesticide:

          Chemical formula C9H10ClN5O2
          Molar mass 255.661

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imidacloprid [wikipedia.org]

          Chemical formula H2O
          Molar mass 18.01528(33)

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water [wikipedia.org]

          So they are saying that somehow the much larger pesticide molecules can fit through smaller pores?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @10:45PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @10:45PM (#811796)

            Methane (CH4) has molecular weight of 16.043 (slightly less than water). Assumign they are all "organic" molecules, I don't think any pesticide could have MW less than that.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday March 11 2019, @08:19AM

            by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday March 11 2019, @08:19AM (#812602) Homepage
            The 1st and 3rd links are nothing but advertising material. And yes, those claims look bullshit. However, it's not the mass that's important, it's the size, and water's a tiny 0.26 nm diameter. Diatomic molecules have an advantage, being linear. I wouldn't be surprised if HCN could pass these filters as it's a linear molecule.
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