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59 Craft Breweries Tell EPA Dirty Water Proposal Threatens Key Ingredient: Water

posted by chromas on Friday March 08 2019, @07:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the water?-like-out-the-toilet? dept.

canopic jug writes:

Since water is a key ingredient in beer, it being mostly water, polluted water threatens beer quality.

Thursday a group of 59 craft breweries sent a letter to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers opposing the agencies' "Dirty Water Rule" proposal to slash clean water protections for waterways around the country.

These brewers, who are partners in NRDC's Brewers for Clean Water campaign, are standing up for safeguards that protect the sources of clean water on which their businesses depend.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by leftover on Friday March 08 2019, @08:34PM (6 children)

    by leftover (2448) on Friday March 08 2019, @08:34PM (#811717)

    Boiling, really? Just how will that remove metals and their salts, glyphosate, or even the usual phosphates and nitrogen compounds? I live in Ohio, USA, where a river once caught fire and one of the Great Lakes periodically becomes poisonous. Puddles of toxic liquid industrial waste on the bottoms of rivers are declared to be "safe" if they are no longer actively moving downstream. Fracking waste with unknown components is still being injected at high pressure back into the just-fractured rock under our aquifers.

    Cleanup in less than one century is an ignorant pipe dream.

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  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by khallow on Friday March 08 2019, @09:03PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 08 2019, @09:03PM (#811731) Journal

    Just how will that remove metals and their salts, glyphosate, or even the usual phosphates and nitrogen compounds?

    What's going on that those will become a problem? A lot of things can cause "taint". The worst is none of the above chemicals, but bacteria and viruses which can grow exponentially in water supplies, but are very easy to remove, if you know what you're doing.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @09:10PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 08 2019, @09:10PM (#811738)

    I live in Ohio, USA, ...

    Are you sure that is accurate. There are irregularities surrounding how Ohio became a state:

    In short: Ohio seems to have been immediately, and most fully, accepted as the 17th State of the Union (for Congress seated its Senators and Representative, clearly accepting their credentials to so represent a constituent State of the Union and, thereby, so obviously indicating Congress' intent in 2 Stat. 201) without any apparent qualm whatsoever. But, as Ohio prepared to celebrate its Sesquecentennial come the early 1950s, the manner in which Ohio had (or had it?) been admitted as a State would become an issue.

    [...]

    from then on, except for a few notable instances, an Enabling Act specifically authorizing the drafting of a State Constitution and the election of a government under same would usually be followed by some explicit and authentic act (early on, an Act of Admission in the form of a Joint Resolution by Congress; in more recent times, a Proclamation by the President of the United States) declaring such new State to, as was the case with Louisiana, "be one of the United States of America, and admitted to the Union on an equal footing with the original states, in all respects whatever".

    Problem is: when the organizers of Ohio's Sesquecentennial, a few years before the event itself, began to search for the original of a similar document for their State, they could find none... because, of course, no such declaratory document existed (because, in turn, no such document was at all necessary, as I will soon explain). This dilemma was, soon enough, publicized and actually became something of a butt of jokes: Federal officers- elective and appointed- from Ohio were overheard waxing humorously about how, perhaps, they were being paid a U.S. Government salary under false pretenses.

    But not everybody was so joking: scholars began to parse the two Congressional statutes relative to Admission, arguing back and forth- with all due seriousness- as to whether or not Ohio was "really" a State of the Union

    https://www.thegreenpapers.com/slg/explanation-ohio-statehood.phtml [thegreenpapers.com]

    Yes, "jokes"...

    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday March 08 2019, @11:02PM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday March 08 2019, @11:02PM (#811808) Homepage Journal

      1953, they did the "law" about that one. Saying, Ohio had been a state for 150 years. It hadn't been a state. But, they made it one. And nobody questions that it's been a state for 65 years now. One of the most important for our Presidential Elections. But I never forget, ALL states are in play for those. And -- people don't know this -- District of Columbia. You are not forgotten!

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 09 2019, @02:41AM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 09 2019, @02:41AM (#811885) Journal

      fait accompli

      Look it up. You can find mountains of irregularities, if you care to. It won't change the fact that Ohio is a state today.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 09 2019, @04:16PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 09 2019, @04:16PM (#812037)

        If we lived in a nation of laws rather than decrees, Ohio wouldn't be a state.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday March 09 2019, @04:29PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 09 2019, @04:29PM (#812042) Journal

          We don't live in a nation of laws. No law has ever died on a battlefield in defense of this nation. Not at Bunker Hill, not at Gettysburg, not at Omaha Beach, not in Iraq, or any other godforsaken place where American boys bled their lives away.