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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47547887:
Theresa May's EU withdrawal deal has been rejected by MPs[*] by an overwhelming majority for a second time, with just 17 days to go to Brexit.
MPs voted down the prime minister's deal by 149 - a smaller margin than when they rejected it in January.
Mrs May said MPs will now get a vote on whether the UK should leave the EU without a deal and, if that fails, on whether Brexit should be delayed.
She said Tory MPs will get a free vote on a no-deal Brexit.
That means they can vote with their conscience rather than following the orders of party managers - an unusual move for a vote on a major policy, with Labour saying it showed she had "given up any pretence of leading the country".
The PM had made a last minute plea to MPs to back her deal after she had secured legal assurances on the Irish backstop from the EU.
But although she managed to convince about 40 Tory MPs to change their mind, it was not nearly enough to overturn the historic 230 vote defeat she suffered in January, throwing her Brexit strategy into fresh disarray.
[*] MP: Member of Parliament; PM: Prime Minister
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 14 2019, @02:44AM (10 children)
This is all theatre, already a while back, a news agency reported that two MPs were found in a pub saying that Brexit will be delayed.
This is all theatre by the oligarchs for the masses so they feel 'democratic' in this outcome...
(Score: 5, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday March 14 2019, @02:48AM (4 children)
If you listen to two different MP's you could find them saying the the No Deal Brexit would happen next week, and be the best thing to happen to Britain since Waterloo.
If the "news agency" that overheard your two MP's has anything to do with the Sun or the Daily Mail, I wouldn't trust it to know what day of the week it is.
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Thursday March 14 2019, @05:11AM (3 children)
Odds makers are expecting a delay up to at least June
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 14 2019, @01:40PM
An even makers, what do they expect?
(Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday March 14 2019, @07:04PM (1 child)
I have just this minute heard a radio report about Parliament voting to delay. I don't think the EU will agree to June though, as they have elections scheduled for May and probably don't want the UK involved if they are going to leave anyway.
All 27 EU members need to agree to a delay though. I wonder what will happen if they decide no?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Thursday March 14 2019, @07:35PM
I wonder what will happen if they decide no?
Just ask your bookie, or visit your local betting parlor. Ignore the pundits and mass media propaganda polls. Deposit some money offshore?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Informative) by edinlinux on Thursday March 14 2019, @03:25AM (4 children)
Here is the article.. it was the chief Brexit negotiator saying it (Guardian Newspaper)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/13/wednesday-briefing-drinking-up-time-brexit-plot-spilled-in-brussels-bar [theguardian.com]
(Score: 4, Insightful) by melikamp on Thursday March 14 2019, @04:31AM (3 children)
(Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Thursday March 14 2019, @05:08AM
At the very least they're going to need to pay for staffing guards along the entire border. You don't need the IRA to cause that, different customs regulations will suffice. I doubt that the Irish will be willing to pay. And you'll develop gangs of smugglers that will, at least, pretend to be the IRA so as to get public support.
In the US this kind of thing is what got the gangs going along the entire Canadian border states, smuggling whiskey. Look up how mild and gentle the Al Capone gang was...but it wasn't the only one. It's a really bad idea. So you need a treaty where Ireland and Northern Ireland have the same customs regulations. But where are you going to draw the bounds if you don't say Britain has to have the same as the EU?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 14 2019, @06:37AM (1 child)
Then IRA will basically start blowing them up again. This is going to be a hard sell to the public,
You assume an Irish perspective, which the Brits do not have.
No one will even notice the IRA. Car accidents kill more people than the IRA, and probably teen knife crime does too.
Anyway, the IRA mostly blow up Ireland, and even if they blew a hole so huge that Ireland sank into the Atlantic
very few Brits would know or care.
(Score: 2) by ledow on Thursday March 14 2019, @08:25AM
The IRA have been bombing since the 70's, and splinter groups continue to bomb to this day.
The usual British reaction is "Oh, for god's sake... which bus do I need to get now, because they'll stop the trains, won't they?"
When you reach that level of pervasiveness, everyone stops caring.
There's a reason that the "IRA" disarmed and became politicians, it had little to do with actual policy changes and much more to do with "Nobody cares, do they?".
Splinter groups that weren't happy with the lack of violence formed, calling themselves things like "The Real IRA", almost like tribute bands. They are niche and rare to hear about, and basically the right-wing nutters that would exist anyway.