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British Parliment Reject Brexit Deal... Again

posted by martyb on Thursday March 14 2019, @01:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the 3rd-time-lucky? dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47547887:

Theresa May's EU withdrawal deal has been rejected by MPs[*] by an overwhelming majority for a second time, with just 17 days to go to Brexit.

MPs voted down the prime minister's deal by 149 - a smaller margin than when they rejected it in January.

Mrs May said MPs will now get a vote on whether the UK should leave the EU without a deal and, if that fails, on whether Brexit should be delayed.

She said Tory MPs will get a free vote on a no-deal Brexit.

That means they can vote with their conscience rather than following the orders of party managers - an unusual move for a vote on a major policy, with Labour saying it showed she had "given up any pretence of leading the country".

The PM had made a last minute plea to MPs to back her deal after she had secured legal assurances on the Irish backstop from the EU.

But although she managed to convince about 40 Tory MPs to change their mind, it was not nearly enough to overturn the historic 230 vote defeat she suffered in January, throwing her Brexit strategy into fresh disarray.

[*] MP: Member of Parliament; PM: Prime Minister

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 14 2019, @05:51AM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 14 2019, @05:51AM (#814074) Journal

    The point is freedom of speech about ordinary things, which today does not exist in the UK.

    There's no such thing as "ordinary things" when you can exile or kill someone for their beliefs and speech. It's too easy to abuse. Plus, the UK presently has a stronger freedom of speech than what you detail above.

    And yes, this world is ultimately a kill-or-be-killed sort of place.

    Except in the many places where it's not. I don't buy in the least that you've found one of the exceptions.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 14 2019, @07:55PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 14 2019, @07:55PM (#814411)

    Except in the many places where it's not.

    Yes, the places where people are well fed, and have Facebook...

    Everybody is all nice and helpful during the occasional hurricane and tornado, but if there were chronic hunger and lack of shelter to go with your religious/political fanaticism, you would all behave like the animals in Somalia, Congo, etc, stealing fuel from hijacked trucks. It would definitely be *Mad Max*. So, please, save your white man's anecdotes!

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 14 2019, @08:33PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 14 2019, @08:33PM (#814434) Journal

      Yes, the places where people are well fed, and have Facebook...

      Everybody is all nice and helpful during the occasional hurricane and tornado, but if there were chronic hunger and lack of shelter to go with your religious/political fanaticism, you would all behave like the animals in Somalia, Congo, etc, stealing fuel from hijacked trucks. It would definitely be *Mad Max*. So, please, save your white man's anecdotes!

      Sounds bad. I guess that's why we don't do that.

      Developed world societies just work. And everyone, including the Muslim world is moving that way. It's just a matter of time.