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posted by martyb on Friday March 15 2019, @07:51PM   Printer-friendly

Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Christchurch shootings at two mosques leave 49 dead, Australian arrested in relation to terror attack

At least one gunman with a semi-automatic weapon attacked worshippers gathering for Friday prayers in two locations: a mosque at Deans Avenue in central Christchurch and another mosque in the nearby suburb of Linwood.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison confirmed one of the people taken into custody was an Australian-born citizen.

The ABC has identified Grafton man Brenton Tarrant as the man visible in livestreamed footage of the attack.
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Two improvised explosive devices (IEDs) were found on a nearby vehicle, but defence force officers disarmed one and are still working on disarming the second.

stuff.co.nz - Black Caps v Bangladesh [cricket] test cancelled after gunmen attack Christchurch mosques

The test match between the Black Caps and Bangladesh will not go ahead.

The Bangladesh cricket team escaped the Christchurch mosque near Hagley Park where a mass shooting took place on Friday. They were due to play New Zealand a short distance away at Hagley Oval on Saturday.

stuff.co.nz - live coverage

* A gunman walked into a mosque on Deans Ave, Christchurch carrying a semi-automatic weapon and opened fire. He live streamed the attack.

* A second shooting occurred at a mosque in Linwood.

* At least 49 people were dead as of 9pm - 41 at the Central Mosque, 7 at Linwood Mosque, 1 in Christchurch Hospital.

* 48 people are in hospital with gunshots wounds as of 9pm, including young children. Other injured went to medical centres.

* A 28-year-old man has been charged with murder and is due to appear in the Christchurch District Court on Saturday morning.

* He was arrested on Brougham St in a car which had explosives and guns inside.

El Grauniad - Rightwing extremist wrote manifesto before livestreaming Christchurch shooting

The man who livestreamed himself attacking a Christchurch mosque and murdering at least 40 people identified himself online before the rampage as Australian citizen Brenton Tarrant.

On a now-deleted Twitter account, Tarrant posted multiple photos of what appear to be machine gun magazines and a link to what is being described as a manifesto for his actions.

The 74-page document starts off quoting a Dylan Thomas poem, Do not go gentle into that good night, and then moves onto a rant about white genocide.

Tarrant outlines his motivations: including to “create an atmosphere of fear” and to “incite violence” against Muslims while offering up autobiographical details.

Also on BBC, Aljazeera, CNN


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday March 15 2019, @07:57PM (39 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday March 15 2019, @07:57PM (#815014) Journal

    “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.,” - Donald J Tump from YESTERDAY

    49 dead churchgoers disagree.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:33PM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:33PM (#815041)

    It's about 55,000 killed in Muslim attacks every year. We'd need 3 of these attacks every day to even up the rate, and then we'd still need to make up for the previous 1300 years.

    Also, since Muslims are now supposedly the left (got a couple in congress even), I see you've given up on LGBT rights and women's rights and anti-slavery and freedom from religion and any objection to antisemitism. Nice. I really don't see anything wrong with openly fighting you now.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @09:21PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @09:21PM (#815082)

      It's about 55,000 killed in Muslim attacks every year.

      I call [wikipedia.org] major bullshit on that number.

      Nice. I really don't see anything wrong with openly fighting you now.

      Then fuck off, go kill yourself.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @09:58PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @09:58PM (#815112)

        Your list is exclusively terrorism.

        Islam is not limited to grand scale attacks. If a Muslim decides to quietly murder somebody in a hate crime against Christianity, that doesn't count. For example, a child who gets baptized Catholic has left Islam and thus all Muslims have a religious duty to kill that child.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:44AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:44AM (#815329)

        Tipu Sultan persecuted the Hindus, Christians with the Mappila Muslims and carried out forced conversions of Hindus and Christians. According to C. K. Kareem, Tippu Sultan issued an edict for the destruction of Hindu temples in Kerala. The portrayal of Tipu Sultan as a religious bigot has been also disputed by some sources suggesting that he in fact often embraced religious pluralism.

        Tipu got Runmust Khan, the Nawab of Kurnool, to launch a surprise attack upon the Kodava Hindus (also called Coorgs or Coorgis) who were besieged by the invading Muslim army. 500 were killed and over 40,000 Kodavas fled to the woods and concealed themselves in the mountains. In Seringapatam, the young men were reported to be forcibly circumcised and incorporated into the Ahmedy Corps, and they formed eight Risalas or regiments. Thousands of Kodava Hindus were seized along with the Raja and held captive at Seringapatam (Srirangapatna). They were also subjected to forcible conversions to Islam, death, and torture. The actual number of Kodavas that were captured in the operation is unclear. The British administrator Mark Wilks gives it as 70,000, historian Lewis Rice arrives at the figure of 85,000, while Mir Kirmani's score for the Coorg campaign is 80,000 men, women and child prisoners. In a letter to Runmust Khan, Tipu himself stated:

                We proceeded with the utmost speed, and, at once, made prisoners of 40,000 occasion-seeking and sedition-exciting Coorgis, who alarmed at the approach of our victorious army, had slunk into woods, and concealed themselves in lofty mountains, inaccessible even to birds. Then carrying them away from their native country (the native place of sedition) we raised them to the honour of Islam, and incorporated them into our Ahmedy corps.

        Are we taking historical figures into account? Take 49 from 40,000 giving 39,951. Are there even that many muslims in NZ to kill? When will the scales be balanced?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @06:51AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @06:51AM (#815335)

          Since it's highly likely you have murderers among your ancestors, I'm gonna find and kill your children; because clearly, at least an eye for an eye is what makes humanity progress.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @07:22AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @07:22AM (#815339)

            Thanks for asking! I can trace my family tree back for centuries, and no, to our knowledge there are no known murders or rapists or similar that would invite such attention as you describe.
            My family has invaded other people's countries to wage war on them, enslave them, steal what they have, kill them for their choice of god.

            So, you're planning on killing my children based on information you don't have with an eye for an eye attitude. Are you sure you're not muslim?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @08:00AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @08:00AM (#815346)

              My family has invaded other people's countries to wage war on them, enslave them, steal what they have, kill them for their choice of god.

              Is that an admission?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @08:27AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @08:27AM (#815362)

                Looks like sarcasm

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @09:47PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @09:47PM (#815583)

              So, you're planning on killing my children based on information you don't have with an eye for an eye attitude.

              So, I'm providing an example of what would it mean to kill Muslims today, invoking lex talionis, as revenge for thing that happened centuries back in the past.
              Weird how the reaction changes when you switch the perspective.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Friday March 15 2019, @09:34PM (13 children)

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Friday March 15 2019, @09:34PM (#815089)

      So do you think killing a bunch of innocents in New Zealand is somehow justified by the amount of people that Saudi Arabia, Iran, and a bunch of other Islamic countries kill?

      If not, why is that even relevant to this discussion?

      --
      "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:01AM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:01AM (#815169)

        Killing is not justified. Anywhere. Anytime. Where the "buck stops", or should stop, is at the door of the (mostly liberal) policy makers and immigration people who have been systematically diluting "1st world western" culture since the 1960's. Anything goes as long as it makes men look stoopid, and anything to do with faith/church is pissed on openly. And as the foundations of society crumble (M.Zuckerschwein is a big part of this the last 10 years), all hell breaks loose. We don't want ghettos / enclaves like in Sweden where even their cops fear to go and the 'refugees' rule. We don't want to land up having another Hitler "cleansing" Europe and the west. We have a mess. Meanwhile, you don't see streams of people lining up to migrate TO Iran, Bangladesh, India, etc, etc. Racism is real, we all deep-down fear anyone different. Some of the source countries for migration are very racist, but once in the west they are saints in public and demand 'equality'. It is now a delicate road forward for governments that have compromised and compromised over decades to try and now define their country and look after their own 'home' interests over those set by the UN / EU and such.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:37AM (7 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:37AM (#815182) Journal
          Indeed. If we didn't let Muslims into our countries, we wouldn't be shooting them in our countries. Maybe in their countries, ... but definitely not in ours.
          • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:14AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:14AM (#815243)

            This is why Montana is such a great State. They used to have bumper-stickers that said: "Gut shoot the khallows at the border!" and "Don't Californiate Montana with your contract programmers!" No racists in Montana, well, except for the Rightwing Nut-job recent arrivals from California. Twenty-acre "Ranchette", my ass!

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Saturday March 16 2019, @04:56AM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday March 16 2019, @04:56AM (#815307) Journal

              How long have you lived there? Can't be that long. People started talking about the "American Redoubt" 30 years ago and began infiltrating across the border from the panhandle of Idaho. It sucks. I have even heard that there's a "Project Little Europe" in the vicinity of Whitefish now.

              Maybe more have arrived from California, but they're far from the first.

              One of these days "the Last, Best Place" will be no more.

              --
              Washington DC delenda est.
            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 16 2019, @01:44PM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @01:44PM (#815436) Journal

              This is why Montana used to be such a great State. They used to have bumper-stickers that said: "Gut shoot the khallows at the border!" and "Don't Californiate Montana with your contract programmers!"

              Sad to say, they've really gone down hill since. I try to help with my mental failwaves, but they're just not receptive.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @03:58AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @03:58AM (#815681)

            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-16/milo-yiannopoulos-banned-from-entering-australia/10908854 [abc.net.au]

            Hahhahahaha your shitty mascot got deplatformed by an entire country!

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 17 2019, @05:01AM (2 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 17 2019, @05:01AM (#815694) Journal
              Looks like he got deplatformed by a single politician. And he's not my shitty mascot. Maybe he's yours?
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @08:07AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @08:07AM (#815752)

                So why are you replying then?

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 17 2019, @02:47PM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 17 2019, @02:47PM (#815856) Journal
                  Because I felt like it. Probably the same reason you replied.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @04:30AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @04:30AM (#815286)

          Where will they migrate to once they have run Australia and NZ into the ground?
          When we have people throwing grenades into homes where will they go? Canada?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @08:26AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @08:26AM (#815361)

            When we have people throwing grenades into homes where will they go?

            Oh, mighty God, please keep out these [nbcnews.com] Americans [propublica.org] from Australia and NZ.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:44PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:44PM (#815521)

        No muslim is innocent. They are just acting as innocent as they can (they still show their hands all the time the treasonous media just doesn't report it) while they are the minority. Read their own religious texts on the matter. They are encouraged to lie and infiltrate and then breed and rape and convert or kill. Fuck them and their rat kids. Just look at that stupid rat bitch from Minnesota smirking at all the stupid whites who voted for her or allow her to hold her seat. She's doing it for her religion(actually a political power grabbing system), you dumb fuckers. She only values America as a purse for their global efforts.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @06:22AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @06:22AM (#815722)

          Don't bother. Just quote the koran. There's a whole section in there about justifiably lying to enemies. Anyone who is not a follower of islam is an enemy.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:34PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:34PM (#815042)

    This guy is basically Manson.

    "This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines,"

    Do democrats support Jussie Smollet because it's the same underlying sociopathy at work? The answer you're looking for is no!

    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Friday March 15 2019, @08:43PM (6 children)

      by looorg (578) on Friday March 15 2019, @08:43PM (#815049)

      This guy is basically Manson.

      In that case we don't really have anything to worry about. Manson with his "helter skelter" fantasy about an apocalypse and a race war between blacks and whites didn't really happen or materialize. So at worst then he is going to get a lot of female fans, get a swastika carved into his forehead and in about 50 years or so he'll die in prison. Plus Manson himself didn't murder Sharon Tate, he got his devoted family to do all the heavy lifting for him. So he actually isn't like Manson at all.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @09:01PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @09:01PM (#815063)

        So he actually isn't like Manson at all.

        Hot take of the day.

        "One psychopath intending to start a race war can't be compared to another psychopath intending to start a race war because... reasons."

        • (Score: 2) by looorg on Friday March 15 2019, @09:12PM (4 children)

          by looorg (578) on Friday March 15 2019, @09:12PM (#815074)

          The first nutjob didn't succeed so what makes you think nutjub number two is going to do better?
          But as previously noted this guy isn't Manson on the basis of Manson not actually doing the deed himself, if there is a Manson that would be the guy, if there is one, that directed this guy to go and kill for his, master mind, race war fantasies. Until such a time that such a person has been identified. No Manson. Or are they both shitty folk singers? Is that the reason?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:03AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:03AM (#815171)
          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:57AM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:57AM (#815189) Journal

            The first nutjob didn't succeed so what makes you think nutjub number two is going to do better?

            I don't know. Why do you ask leading questions?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:17AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:17AM (#815247)

              I don't know. Why do you ask leading questions?

              He's trying to help you, khallow, but you are manifesting resistance. Is there something that happened to you in your childhood that we should know about, to be able to proceed with your psychological treatment? Do these questions make you uncomfortable?

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 16 2019, @01:46PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @01:46PM (#815439) Journal

                He's trying to help you, khallow, but you are manifesting resistance.

                I wish I had read this post before I replied to your other one. "Manifesting resistance" is just a great parasite phrase.

  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Friday March 15 2019, @10:03PM (5 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Friday March 15 2019, @10:03PM (#815116) Journal

    The terrorist has been planning this attack for four years, as stated by the terrorist.

    --
    Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:07AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:07AM (#815238)

      From what I've heard hes more like a "trollerist". His main goal was to rile up iditios by triggering all their insecurities.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:21AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:21AM (#815250)

        Why did you choose to use firearms?
        I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van.
        Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
        ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
        attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
        I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
        media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
        politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.
        The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state,
        social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
        With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
        abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
        this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.
        This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic
        polarization of the people in the United States

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Friday March 15 2019, @10:16PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday March 15 2019, @10:16PM (#815124) Homepage Journal

    Time Zone is incredible. One of the most complicated things Man has ever devised. In my Time Zone, it's now Friday. March 15. And you're quoting my exclusive interview with Breitbart, which I gave on Monday (my time). March 11. Very successful interview, they did many stories from that one. Which, by the way, I did a Sub of the best (most popular) story from Tuesday. Just to see what would happen. I knew what would happen. And that one's already rejected by Soylent News Editors -- as usual, no explanation. Just, Rejected. For me it wasn't yesterday. And, I think, for most of our amazing World, it wasn't yesterday. In Death Monkey Time Zone, I don't know, maybe it is.

    I'm so happy that you read Breitbart. It's a very smart move. And it would be a great quote. In the Context, it would be a great quote. But you've taken it very far out of the Context. I was talking about America. About the problems we're having with our violent left, and alt-left. Something that, there was a story about it on Soylent News today. Which for you, possibly, is still a few days in the future. How my D.H.S. is using Surveillance to go after the instigators of the Caravans -- and doing a marvelous job. So in my interview, you left out, I said "When I see that – what’s going on on college campuses, when I see that young man get punched in the face, when I see that other one with cowbells – you know what I’m – I thought that was disgraceful. I can’t believe that any one would have let him do that. If I was speaking, I tell you, there’s no way I would have been allowed to just stand there like that and keep trying to make a speech [while] the guy’s ringing a bell right in your face. You can’t even – that was a terrible – Did you see that picture? Did you see? You know what I’m talking about? I thought that was really terrible."

    Going to Mosque doesn't necessarily make somebody Left. And it doesn't make them right either -- not necessarily. But, I wasn't talking about Mosque. I was talking about Cowbell. The violence coming from our left. And I said, that violence is terrible. Cowbell, so horrible, right? I ask "right?" But I don't expect you to say "right." And I don't expect you to agree. Because it's your people doing the Cowbell Violence & many many violent acts. The Socialists, the Dems, the Democrat Socialists, the Antifa, the Black Identity Extremists. All ringing Cowbell as loud as they can. Until our great Silent Majority can barely hear ourselves think. And you call it a "discussion." It's not a discussion, it's mostly Cowbell. And it's too much Cowbell. Much too much. Crazy!!! breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/12/exclusive-trump-on-campus-free-speech-executive-order-were-going-to-do-a-very-big-number-probably-next-week [breitbart.com]