Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

SoylentNews is powered by your submissions, so send in your scoop. Only 18 submissions in the queue.

49 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack

posted by martyb on Friday March 15 2019, @07:51PM   Printer-friendly

c0lo writes:

Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Christchurch shootings at two mosques leave 49 dead, Australian arrested in relation to terror attack

At least one gunman with a semi-automatic weapon attacked worshippers gathering for Friday prayers in two locations: a mosque at Deans Avenue in central Christchurch and another mosque in the nearby suburb of Linwood.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison confirmed one of the people taken into custody was an Australian-born citizen.

The ABC has identified Grafton man Brenton Tarrant as the man visible in livestreamed footage of the attack.
...
Two improvised explosive devices (IEDs) were found on a nearby vehicle, but defence force officers disarmed one and are still working on disarming the second.

stuff.co.nz - Black Caps v Bangladesh [cricket] test cancelled after gunmen attack Christchurch mosques

The test match between the Black Caps and Bangladesh will not go ahead.

The Bangladesh cricket team escaped the Christchurch mosque near Hagley Park where a mass shooting took place on Friday. They were due to play New Zealand a short distance away at Hagley Oval on Saturday.

stuff.co.nz - live coverage

* A gunman walked into a mosque on Deans Ave, Christchurch carrying a semi-automatic weapon and opened fire. He live streamed the attack.

* A second shooting occurred at a mosque in Linwood.

* At least 49 people were dead as of 9pm - 41 at the Central Mosque, 7 at Linwood Mosque, 1 in Christchurch Hospital.

* 48 people are in hospital with gunshots wounds as of 9pm, including young children. Other injured went to medical centres.

* A 28-year-old man has been charged with murder and is due to appear in the Christchurch District Court on Saturday morning.

* He was arrested on Brougham St in a car which had explosives and guns inside.

El Grauniad - Rightwing extremist wrote manifesto before livestreaming Christchurch shooting

The man who livestreamed himself attacking a Christchurch mosque and murdering at least 40 people identified himself online before the rampage as Australian citizen Brenton Tarrant.

On a now-deleted Twitter account, Tarrant posted multiple photos of what appear to be machine gun magazines and a link to what is being described as a manifesto for his actions.

The 74-page document starts off quoting a Dylan Thomas poem, Do not go gentle into that good night, and then moves onto a rant about white genocide.

Tarrant outlines his motivations: including to “create an atmosphere of fear” and to “incite violence” against Muslims while offering up autobiographical details.

Also on BBC, Aljazeera, CNN

Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
49 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack | Log In/Create an Account | Top | 194 comments | Search Discussion
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:29PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:29PM (#815038)

    So the guy was very confused and post-truthy, what a surprise.

    Starting Score:    0  points
    Moderation   +1  
       Insightful=1, Total=1
    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  
    Total Score:   1  

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:48PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @08:48PM (#815054)

    He self-identified as an "eco-fascist". Fascism grew from Marxism, that is not "post-truth" it is hard, indisputable fact.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @10:41PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @10:41PM (#815138)

      And water is not wet, the pope does not wear a funny hat and bears don't shit in the woods ... other hard, indisputable facts.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @11:17PM (11 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 15 2019, @11:17PM (#815157)

        And water is not wet, the pope does not wear a funny hat and bears don't shit in the woods ... other hard, indisputable facts.

        If we're going for the sarcasm take, add yourself being educated to the list!

        Giovanni Gentile [rationalwiki.org] and Benito Mussolini were Marxist scholars before publishing La Dottrina del Fascismo.

        Fascism recognises the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade-unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonised in the unity of the State.

        Why are leftists like Ilhan Omar and Jeremy Corbyn considered antisemitic? From where did the Black Front [wikipedia.org] get their ideas?

        What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. [...] In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism. -- Karl Marx

        Collectivist ideologies and their proponents are murderous and to be condemned.

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:50AM (6 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @12:50AM (#815185) Journal

          Mussolini [wikipedia.org]

          [1917] Mussolini denounced the PSI, his views now centering on nationalism instead of socialism and later founded the fascist movement which came to oppose egalitarianism[6] and class conflict, instead advocating "revolutionary nationalism" transcending class lines.
          ...
          Mussolini rejected egalitarianism, a core doctrine of socialism.[6] He was influenced by Nietzsche's anti-Christian ideas and negation of God's existence. [40] Mussolini felt that socialism had faltered, in view of the failures of Marxist determinism and social democratic reformism, and believed that Nietzsche's ideas would strengthen socialism. While associated with socialism, Mussolini's writings eventually indicated that he had abandoned Marxism and egalitarianism in favor of Nietzsche's übermensch concept and anti-egalitarianism.

          "Denounced". Like in "no longer agreeing with" to say the least.
          Sorry, but it seems to me fascism grew from the denouncing of marxism.

          --
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @02:28AM (5 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @02:28AM (#815215)

            "Denounced". Like in "no longer agreeing with" to say the least.
            Sorry, but it seems to me fascism grew from the denouncing of marxism.

            The Marxists believed WW1 would result in the proletariat overthrowing the bourgeoisie. The schism occurred when that didn't happen and class conflict was abandoned by many Marxists who then became fascists. Further illustrated by former left wing British MP Oswald Mosley and his BUF. [wordpress.com] As further paralleled by the contemptuous rejection of the working class by today's left who favor identity politics and race conflict in their lust for murderous power. We could diverge here into a discussion on George Bernard Shaw [historia.ro] and fabianism IngSoc.

            Why '1984'? [theguardian.com]

            Orwell's title remains a mystery. Some say he was alluding to the centenary of the Fabian Society, founded in 1884.

            After annihilating Stalinism in Animal Farm, Orwell turned his ire to elitist socialists -- the total war society depicted in 1984 being undeniably fascistic.

            If you think fascism emerged from liberalism, you are deluded. Despite the death toll, it's never "real socialism" as far as socialists are concerned huh?

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Saturday March 16 2019, @02:48AM (4 children)

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @02:48AM (#815228) Journal

              If you think fascism emerged from liberalism, you are deluded.

              I think fascism emerged from Mussolini, not from marxism.

              --
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford

              • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:18AM (3 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:18AM (#815249)

                Mussolini the Marxist? [wikipedia.org]

                Mussolini was so familiar with Marxist literature that in his own writings he would not only quote from well-known Marxist works but also from the relatively obscure works. During this period, Mussolini, like all revolutionaries, considered himself a Marxist and he described Marx as "the greatest of all theorists of socialism."

                But what of his support for Nietzsche's Ubermensch, surely that wasn't socialist? [wikipedia.org] What about his support for the war? [wikipedia.org]

                The socialist movements had declared before the war their opposition to a war which they said could only mean workers killing each other in the interests of their bosses. But once the war was declared, most socialist and trade union bodies decided to back the government of their country and support the war.

                Can't say the syndicalist policies were left wing though huh? [libertarianism.org]

                Even as it offered a critique of existing socialism, it is important to recall that Italian fascism was distinctly and self-consciously socialist, its policy content and character as a movement emerging from the constellation of socialist organizations active in Italy in the early twentieth century.

                Sorry dude. Fascism grew from Marxism in opposition to liberal capitalism - historical fact!

                • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:34AM (2 children)

                  by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:34AM (#815258) Journal

                  Because it's an established fact that, in spite of denunciation, a man never actually changes his mind and values in the course off his life.

                  --
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:43PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:43PM (#815487)

                    in spite of denunciation

                    Fascism rejected class struggle but employed syndicalism. The ideas behind Fascism emerged from the left but were subjugated to the nation state. Lenin sought to destroy the nation state but the USSR was ultimately centrally planned state socialism, replete with expansionist policies and forced labor camps. Denounce that!

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:11PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:11PM (#815503)

                    the problem with people like you is that you are dishonest. just admit the truth you fucking weasel!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @01:40AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @01:40AM (#815197)

          Collectivist ideologies and their proponents are murderous and to be condemned.

          Whereas individual stochastic anti-semitic (anti-Jewish, or anti Muslim) terrorists are murderous, and, what is your point?

          • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @02:30AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @02:30AM (#815218)

            Fascism [wikipedia.org] is not an individualist ideology. Try again!

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:52AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 16 2019, @03:52AM (#815267) Journal

            He doesn't have one, but likes hearing himself.

            --
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:13PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 16 2019, @05:13PM (#815504)

            this lazy minded slave didn't read the manifesto and gets his news from the fucking idiot box.