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posted by chromas on Monday March 25 2019, @07:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the I'm-handing-out-infinite-punishment-for-finite-crime,-spread-the-word-and-take-donations dept.

Complex societies gave birth to big gods, not the other way around: study

"It has been a debate for centuries why humans, unlike other animals, cooperate in large groups of genetically unrelated individuals," says Seshat director and co-author Peter Turchin from the University of Connecticut and the Complexity Science Hub Vienna. Factors such as agriculture, warfare, or religion have been proposed as main driving forces.

One prominent theory, the big or moralizing gods hypothesis, assumes that religious beliefs were key. According to this theory, people are more likely to cooperate fairly if they believe in gods who will punish them if they don't. "To our surprise, our data strongly contradict this hypothesis," says lead author Harvey Whitehouse. "In almost every world region for which we have data, moralizing gods tended to follow, not precede, increases in social complexity." Even more so, standardized rituals tended on average to appear hundreds of years before gods who cared about human morality.

When ancient societies hit a million people, vengeful gods appeared

The God depicted in the Old Testament may sometimes seem wrathful. And in that, he's not alone; supernatural forces that punish evil play a central role in many modern religions.

[...] But which came first: complex societies or the belief in a punishing god?

The researchers found that belief in moralizing gods usually followed increases in social complexity, generally appearing after the emergence of civilizations with populations of more than about 1 million people.

"It was particularly striking how consistent it was [that] this phenomenon emerged at the million-person level," Savage said. "First, you get big societies, and these beliefs then come."

All in all, "our research suggests that religion is playing a functional role throughout world history, helping stabilize societies and people cooperate overall," Savage said. "In really small societies, like very small groups of hunter-gatherers, everyone knows everyone else, and everyone's keeping an eye on everyone else to make sure they're behaving well. Bigger societies are more anonymous, so you might not know who to trust."


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Monday March 25 2019, @01:47PM (2 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Monday March 25 2019, @01:47PM (#819497)

    So in other words, humans do the right thing for the wrong reasons because humans are stupid.

    Instead of behaving themselves because they are supposed to be civilized people in a large civilization, they make up some imaginary friend with superpowers that will magically punish anyone that disagrees with them. But only after that person moves to an imaginary magic land after they "die", which conveniently is a tad hard to disprove to brainless idiots.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 25 2019, @04:04PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 25 2019, @04:04PM (#819595)

    The Christian god, whether the angry, abusive one or the rebooted loving and forgiving one, and the associated myths are nothing but a hodge-podge assembly cherry-picked from a slough of other, earlier gods and myths.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 28 2019, @07:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 28 2019, @07:22AM (#821212)

      If so then anything descended from Christianity is likewise pure crap. Islam for example.