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posted by martyb on Thursday March 28 2019, @07:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the let's-get-social dept.

Social media has remarkably small impact on Americans’ beliefs:

Social media had only a small influence on how much people believed falsehoods about candidates and issues in the last two presidential elections, a pair of new national studies found.

And Facebook -- which came under fire for spreading misinformation in the 2016 campaign -- actually reduced misperceptions by users in that election compared to those who consumed only other social media.

The results suggest that we need to put the dangers of social media spreading misinformation in perspective, said R. Kelly Garrett, author of the study and professor of communication at The Ohio State University.

"Given the amount of attention given to the issue, it may seem surprising that social media doesn't have a larger impact on Americans' belief in falsehoods," Garrett said.

Journal Reference:
R. Kelly Garrett. Social media’s contribution to political misperceptions in U.S. Presidential elections. PLOS ONE, 2019; 14 (3): e0213500 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0213500

The study lets Facebook off the hook for influencing the 2016 election. Further, the study found, "Results showed that, overall, Republicans beliefs tended to be less accurate than those of Democrats, which made sense because the falsehoods were a prominent part of the Republican campaign strategy, Garrett said."

There you have it. It's science.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday March 28 2019, @08:50PM (12 children)

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Thursday March 28 2019, @08:50PM (#821511) Journal

    From the referenced study:

    More than a dozen possible issues were identified, and the final set was selected based on frequent references to them on the campaign trail, extensive media coverage, and evidence that Americans were at least occasionally mistaken about them. This approach is considerably different than the one used when selecting candidate falsehoods. This was purposeful, and reflected differences in how the two types of falsehoods tend to be used during campaigns. Issue falsehoods are much easier to identify than false claims about candidates because they are more often openly embraced on the campaign trail, and are more widely reported in the news media. The question here is whether social media use is amplifying or constraining citizens’ willingness to endorse these widely shared falsehoods. These are not the only issues that were described inaccurately on the campaign trail, but they are among the highest profile claims.

    So we are not dealing with issues raised online necessarily, or where the primary discourse on the items was online, but rather issues that made it onto the campaign trail and were judged to be inaccurate. Sounds to me like like an analysis of flooding risk by looking at roads with bridges rather than looking at how many people build homes in flood plains and then asking how many of the people along bridged roads got flooded out. (More seriously, conflating the falsehood perpetuated on the campaign trail as things which social media would influence, rather than looking at how issues which were social media based affected the campaigns). But I could be misreading that.
    And the questions used are interesting.

    2012:
    Barack Obama is Muslim, not Christian
    Barack Obama is a Socialist because he believes the government should own the property and equipment used to produce goods.
    Barack Obama said he wants gas prices to skyrocket so that Americans will switch to alternative energy sources.
    Barack Obama used federal stimulus momney to outsource U.S. bridge projects to Chines companies.
    As Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney signed a healthcare law providing taxpayer-funded abortions.
    Mitt Romney, who is Mormon, does not call himself a Christian.
    Mitt Romney said he knows what it means to work with the black community because his ancestors owned slaves.
    Mitt Romney said that Mormon Church leaders should play a defining role in national affairs.
    2016:
    Repleaing the Affordable Care Act would reduce the national debt (1) – Repealing the Affordable Care act would increase the national debt (5)
    Most Muslinms support violence against Westgern countries, including the U.S. (1) – Most Muslims oppose violence against Western countries, including the U.S. (5)
    Immigrants are more likely to commit violent crimes than individuals born in the U.S. (1) – Immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than individuals born in the U.S.
    Human activity is contributing to changes in the global climate (5) – Human activity has no influence on global climate (1).

    Limitation recognitions were made that the 2016 data were more Republican-falsehood heavy, and that many of the issues had life before the election periods. No recognition that the 2012 data were about candidates and the 2016 data about issues, albeit party-divided issues AFAICT. And also an assumption that the issues discussed on the trail were the differences at the polls - although that could have been addressed and I missed that.
    At what point are they comparing apples and oranges, or looking at an apple orchard to figure out how the celery is growing?

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 28 2019, @10:00PM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 28 2019, @10:00PM (#821531)

    Here is Barack Obama, referring to his Muslim faith:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw [youtube.com]

    That is right from his own mouth.

    His father and stepfather were both Muslim. This alone is enough; it is a Muslim belief that the child of a Muslim is inescapably Muslim.

    He grew up in Indonesia, going to a muslim school. What are the chances he didn't make the statement of Muslim faith, officially and irrevocably making him Muslim?

    ...

    Now, if you want to claim that he wasn't a very active Muslim, sure, that much seems obvious. You can probably find examples of him with pork and alcohol, and he doesn't seem to face Mecca 5 times a day. Realistically he is probably an atheist at heart... but he would still qualify as a Muslim, because you can never leave. It is also pretty damn obvious that he has some serious positive feelings toward Islam, having even directed NASA (WTF!!!) to support Islam.

    • (Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Friday March 29 2019, @12:33AM (9 children)

      by fyngyrz (6567) on Friday March 29 2019, @12:33AM (#821594) Journal

      His father and stepfather were both Muslim. This alone is enough; it is a Muslim belief that the child of a Muslim is inescapably Muslim.

      lol no.

      You may believe that I am Muslim, but I only am if I believe I am a Muslim.

      Muslim is not consequent to a human genotype. It is a label that applies to a belief system. If you don't believe, you aren't that.

      Are you a [fill in the blank] just because I believe you are? Even if you are my offspring? Of course not. You are what you are, and my beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with it.

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      Reality is that thing which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 29 2019, @02:08AM (8 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 29 2019, @02:08AM (#821627) Journal

        lol no back at you.

        In Islam, you learn from birth about Islam. You are presumed Muslim by virtue of having been taught. As you mature, you have two possible paths in life - remain Muslim, or become apostate. The penalty for apostasy is death. From Obama's own mouth, if Islam and the West are in conflict, he will support Islam.

        Obama may not be a *good* Muslim, but he is Muslim.

        Where you err, is by projecting our knowledge and values on another society. Islam values almost nothing that we value.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @02:16AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @02:16AM (#821631)

          aaaaaaand triggered!

          not even by Chelsea Manning, whose constitutional rights are being violated as we speak.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 29 2019, @02:31AM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 29 2019, @02:31AM (#821640) Journal

            Alright now, you can stop pulling my - uhhhh - FINGER.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @08:11AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @08:11AM (#821696)

            Actually, referring to Runaway at any given point in time as "triggered" is redundant, since he is in this state at any given time, and in fact, at all times.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @02:27PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @02:27PM (#821805)

          Oh, just like Jews, Christians, and Texans then. How stereotypical of you.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by cmdrklarg on Friday March 29 2019, @04:06PM (3 children)

          by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 29 2019, @04:06PM (#821866)

          Religious Bullshit. "You're a member of us whether you like it or not!" I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but I sure as fuck am not anymore.

          From Obama's own mouth, if Islam and the West are in conflict, he will support Islam.

          Citation? I'm not finding that with a quick search.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 29 2019, @04:58PM (2 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 29 2019, @04:58PM (#821888) Journal

            Here's one person's take on Obama's words - and he is reasonable, in that he does point out that others have different interpretations: https://personalliberty.com/obama-really-say-will-stand-muslims/ [personalliberty.com]

            Another one that is more defensive of Obama, and tries to put the quotes in context: https://www.truthorfiction.com/obama-books/ [truthorfiction.com]

            Obama accusers see one thing in the very same sentence in which Obama apologists see another thing. You should know by now that I scrutinize all of the presidents, and apologize for none. I have found myself in the uncomfortable position of defending most of them from totally unfair accusations. (Sucks to be Carter, I don't recall EVER defending him!)

            IMO, Obama meant exactly what he is accused of meaning with that quote. Did Obama get aggressive with ISIS/ISIL/DAESH? Uhhh - no - he didn't. Did Obama kick ass anywhere? Not much. His Naval forces bagged Osama bin Laden, but I can't recall anything else that was even moderately impressive. Remember that "What difference does it make?" Clinton's blunder happened under Obama's leadership.

            Yes, I do believe that Obama's first loyalty is to Islam. You may believe differently, of course.

            • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday March 29 2019, @08:34PM (1 child)

              by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 29 2019, @08:34PM (#822020)

              You are correct, as I do think differently.

              I wasn't looking for someone's interpretation of said quote, I was looking for the ACTUAL quote you attributed to Obama, which thanks to your second link I was able to find it.

              “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

              You can interpret that how you like, but I'm thinking that you are taking that statement WAY out of context. He is talking about protecting AMERICAN CITIZENS that happen to be of Arab or Pakistani descent. Much like Japanese Americans were NOT protected during WWII.

              I get it that you don't like Obama, but please vilify the man for the REAL shit that he did, and not bullshit like this.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:56PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @02:56PM (#822362)

                The far right is spouting fake news? Really? o_O

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @02:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @02:07PM (#821796)