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posted by mrpg on Monday April 01 2019, @12:35PM   Printer-friendly
from the yes dept.

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A school in Indiana has been criticised for apparently shooting teachers "execution style" with pellets as part of an "active-shooter drill". The case has reignited conversations about the usefulness of drills and the methods used to prepare schools for shootings.

[...] Many experts agree that discussing and practising how to respond to a dangerous situation will help protect students who find themselves faced with the real thing. Fire drills, for example, are well established tools to teach children how to behave in a potentially life-threatening situation.

[...] While more realistic and stressful situations may be appropriate here, he says "large-scale, prolonged, realistic drills are not ideal" for children.

[...] "Children being asked to pose as victims on the floor covered in fake blood is just pointless and can be traumatising, I can't see why that's necessary."

Source: US school shootings: Have drills gone too far?


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Thexalon on Monday April 01 2019, @02:27PM (6 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday April 01 2019, @02:27PM (#823079)

    The incident this article referred to went like this: Law enforcement officers called 4 teachers into a room. They ordered the teachers to crouch and turn around. They then shot them with injury-causing pellets at point-blank range. Then, they told the teachers that they had to call the next group in without informing them what was going to happen next. Many teachers will be dealing with the after-effects of these injuries for the rest of their lives, because blunt-force trauma can cause long-term problems depending on where you're hit, and it's not like all the teachers were young and healthy to begin with.

    No kids were present, as far as I can tell from the reports.

    The only potential value I can see in this kind of training is if they were hoping to get the teachers to assault the law enforcement officers rather than follow orders. Otherwise, it sure looks like the purpose of this "drill" was to hurt teachers because they're sadists who wanted to hurt teachers. And in either event, it seems to have had jack squat to do with protecting kids from madmen with guns ... unless you're referring to the law enforcement officers of course.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Monday April 01 2019, @03:36PM (2 children)

    by nitehawk214 (1304) on Monday April 01 2019, @03:36PM (#823107)

    I am sure that if a teacher had fought back and injured an officer, they would have been beat to death or shot with an actual gun instead.

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    • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Monday April 01 2019, @03:48PM

      by Alfred (4006) on Monday April 01 2019, @03:48PM (#823113) Journal
      Yup, this is double fucked up
    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday April 01 2019, @09:24PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Monday April 01 2019, @09:24PM (#823264)

      Or arrested. They might try to arrest you by yelling at the next group to "Save yourselves! Multiple active shooters!", but those charges would probably be dropped.

  • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday April 01 2019, @09:22PM (1 child)

    by krishnoid (1156) on Monday April 01 2019, @09:22PM (#823263)

    One guy who trains people for this kind of stuff [youtube.com] recommends assaulting the shooter.

  • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 01 2019, @11:54PM

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday April 01 2019, @11:54PM (#823326) Journal

    Yes, I read about this "drill" too. It has resulted in a proposal by the teachers that there be a bill passed in Indiana prohibiting the firing of projectiles at teachers in a safety drill or training.

    Is this really where we're at now in society? That you have to legislate the idea that we shouldn't fire projectiles (of any sort) at teachers... Then again, we used to have amendments that said the government couldn't search you, until nudie scans became necessary to board a plane. We used to have amendments that said you couldn't monitor private communications without a warrant... Until the NSA was just given blanket authority to do it all the time on whomever.

    So yeah, I guess maybe today we have to actually instruct a law enforcement officer that -- you know, you might not want to fire (even plastic) projectiles at defenseless other people for no apparent reason other than to exercise your ego. Another article I read said that some insurance company had paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in related injuries for other "trainings" of this sort that have happened in recent years. Really?? What the hell is wrong with people?