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FamilyTreeDNA Deputizes Itself, Starts Pitching DNA Matching Services To Law Enforcement
One DNA-matching company has decided it's going to corner an under-served market: US law enforcement. FamilyTreeDNA -- last seen here opening up its database to the FBI without informing its users first -- is actively pitching its services to law enforcement.
The television spot, to air in San Diego first, asks anyone who has had a direct-to-consumer DNA test from another company, like 23andMe or Ancestry.com, to upload a copy so that law enforcement can spot any connections to DNA found at crime scenes.
The advertisement features Ed Smart, father of Elizabeth Smart, a Salt Lake City teen who was abducted in 2002 but later found alive. “If you are one of the millions of people who have taken a DNA test, your help can provide the missing link,” he says in the spot.
Welcome to FamilyTreeDNA's cooperating witness program -- one it profits from by selling information customers give it to law enforcement. The tug at the heartstrings is a nice touch. FamilyTreeDNA is finally being upfront with users about its intentions for their DNA samples. This is due to its founder deciding -- without consulting his customers -- that they're all as willing as he is to convert your DNA samples into public goods.
Bennett Greenspan, the firm’s founder, said he had decided he had a moral obligation to help solve old murders and rapes. Now he thinks that customers will agree and make their DNA available specifically to help out.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 03 2019, @11:21PM (12 children)
I bought a kit, swabbed my dog's mouth, submitted it. Now I can commit crimes with impunity!
(Score: 5, Informative) by RandomFactor on Wednesday April 03 2019, @11:42PM (8 children)
It isn't just you. If some of your nearby relatives are on file, you effectively are as well.
Also if you decide you don't care for yourself, remember that yours being on file also allows them to zero in on kids, grandkids, parents, aunts, & uncles.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Thursday April 04 2019, @12:07AM (2 children)
Easy. Just eliminate their DNA before they submit a DNA sample.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04 2019, @12:40PM (1 child)
From a litigation standpoint, I don't think that has actually been tested. But it could be. For example, an 18 Y/O son could reasonably sue his parents for intrusion if they got one of these test done ON THEMSELVES. Particularly if he/she had markers for a genetic disorder. The loss is incured because this stuff could be used in the future by a potential mate, or even an employer. That fact is likely to cause mental harm or stress.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday April 05 2019, @12:08AM
Implicit assumption: the "Genome sequencing companies own the data and they can share it with whoever they want - law enforcement included - at large and with no regulatory safeguards".
Iff you accept this assumption, the "culprits" for the misfortune the 18Y/O can sue for are her/his parents - they should have known better (could they??? How?).
But... why does the assumption need to hold true? Why push the responsibility for safeguarding their own privacy to each and every person? Why ask everyone to be paranoid?
Do we really like a society based on mistrust as the default?
Only in the name of profit? (or, in the proposed context, "to avoid potential loss in the future")
Is "eternal economical growth" a purpose to each one needs to sacrifice every other purposes in life? Do we want/like to become "economic drones"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Informative) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday April 04 2019, @01:56AM (2 children)
Forget about "nearby" relatives. DNA matching has gotten good enough to identify matches even out to fourth or fifth cousins, which (depending on the size of your family) could encompass tens of thousands of relatives.
At that point, it's only a matter of genealogy to begin to zero in. This procedure was perhaps first used in earnest in 2014 to track down relatives of a girl who had been abducted 30+ years before by the perpetrator of the Bear Brook Murders of New Hampshire. The lead genealogist estimated it took 10,000 hours of work to locate the relatives beginning with DNA database matches at the fifth-cousin level.
Using pedigree triangulation techniques that have been honed in the past couple years (along with increased public participation in DNA databases), the same genealogist was able to find the father of the abducted girl last year with only 10 hours of research. These techniques have been used again and again in the past few years to establish links on cold cases decades old.
Chances are you have a thousand or more relatives who could be connected to you already in DNA databases. And with various techniques those hits can be used to zero in on you even without close relatives in any database. With better DNA and genealogy tools, nobody is really anonymous anymore.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday April 04 2019, @02:09AM (1 child)
And by the way, I myself had no idea how far this stuff had progressed (despite headlines about the Golden State Killer last year) until I listened to the Bear Brook podcast [bearbrookpodcast.com] a few months ago. Absolutely crazy story about a cold case I had heard of years ago, which was finally solved. There's a lot in the later episodes about forensic genealogy and how it has advanced in leaps and bounds just in the past five years or so. Truly scary stuff to contemplate from a privacy standpoint.
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Thursday April 04 2019, @02:56AM
Yeah, it's progressed so far Wal-Mart can do it for you....along with a full on medical diagnosis! All in just 24 hours!
https://ifunny.co/picture/walmart-installed-a-medical-kiosk-for-10-and-a-urine-FuHgAw0Q6 [ifunny.co]
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you took me seriously, you didn't notice my username....and I'm not sorry...
Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04 2019, @10:50AM (1 child)
What can you do if the hospital steals a sample of your baby's blood?
https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/twila-brase/moms-govt-collecting-your-babys-dna-without-your-consent [cnsnews.com]
https://www.schn.health.nsw.gov.au/files/attachments/newborn_screening_guidlines_2015.pdf [nsw.gov.au]
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-biobank-dna-babies-who-has-access/ [cbsnews.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @12:41AM
you're not supposed to be having babies at the hospital. that's where they register the new slaves.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday April 04 2019, @12:37AM (1 child)
That would be a good test of whether they actually check the basics, like number of chromosomes.
What else has 23 pairs ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_antelope [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeves%27s_muntjac [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parhyale_hawaiensis [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0, Redundant) by RandomFactor on Thursday April 04 2019, @12:46AM
Sable antelope (Hippotragus niger) 46
Reeves's muntjac (Muntiacus reevesi) 46
Human (Homo sapiens) 46
Parhyale hawaiensis 46
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04 2019, @01:35AM
Ever get those mail-in poop sample kits from your doctor? "Honey... The doctor called. You have worms".