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posted by martyb on Saturday April 06 2019, @05:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the Everybody-Talks-About-It,-And-Finally-Somebody-Is-Doing-Something-About-It dept.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2019-04-04/oregon-senate-oks-permanent-daylight-saving-time

The Oregon Senate has passed a bill establishing permanent Daylight Saving Time in the state, and the Governor has signaled she supports the effort. If it passes the House (and possibly the US Congress, it is a bit ambiguous to me), it could end the semi-annual resetting of clocks which causes so much annoyance and increase of injury and deaths.

Personally speaking, I'd rather it settled on permanent Standard time than Daylight time, but as long as it is steady I think it's better than the current regime.

See also:
Texas efforts: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/03/05/1413228
Europe's efforts: http://fortune.com/2019/03/26/european-union-parliament-daylight-saving-time/
Mandatory XKCD: https://www.xkcd.com/1268/


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  • (Score: 1) by liberza on Saturday April 06 2019, @07:15PM (8 children)

    by liberza (6137) on Saturday April 06 2019, @07:15PM (#825473)

    Get rid of all timezones and everyone just use UTC

  • (Score: 2) by Codesmith on Saturday April 06 2019, @07:28PM (3 children)

    by Codesmith (5811) on Saturday April 06 2019, @07:28PM (#825483)

    Why not have every locale use local solar time?

    Seriously, with the prevalence of computing devices (and smartphones) we could easily allow every location to have their own solar noon.

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    Pro utilitate hominum.
    • (Score: 2) by NateMich on Saturday April 06 2019, @08:04PM (1 child)

      by NateMich (6662) on Saturday April 06 2019, @08:04PM (#825491)

      I'm fairly certain people don't actually care about where the sun is at noon, but rather where it is when they start or end work.
      The problem then becomes everyone not starting and ending work at the same time anyway.
      I propose that there is no solution to what timezone to use as long as everyone has a different schedule they have/want to keep.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07 2019, @12:14AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07 2019, @12:14AM (#825555)

        Before time zones, 12 Noon as when the sun reached it peak, Some towns has a small connon fire at noon, by using a magitfier and placing it correctly over the fuse / black power.

        This method worked well until, the railroad came town. Yup, the railroad. Using single tracks between towns means both ends need to know that a train is schedule. If each town had a different clock east and west, there was no safe way to determie the tracks were clear. Also cost a lot of of local schedules. :)

        The railroad got together in Chicago to settle on time zones to sequencize the clocks. Made running a railroad cheaper.

        Now it is say that good old Ben Franklin also proposed daylight saving time. But agian this before time zones, it would have just changed when 12 noon was locally giving more "usable" hours.

    • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Monday April 08 2019, @02:23PM

      by urza9814 (3954) on Monday April 08 2019, @02:23PM (#826166) Journal

      Seriously, with the prevalence of computing devices (and smartphones) we could easily allow every location to have their own solar noon.

      So your laptop and router have built-in GPS or cellular receivers? Because personally I still have TONS of computing devices which have no method to get their current location accurately enough for that. And I don't particularly want them to either...

      There's also the issue of making having some kind of computer mandatory for just knowing the time in a nearby city. That's downright absurd.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @08:21PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @08:21PM (#825498)

    Get rid of all timezones and everyone just use UTC

    Fuck that. I'd have to reset the time on my microwave and my coffee maker. Not.gonna.happen.

    • (Score: 1) by sorpigal on Sunday April 07 2019, @11:17AM

      by sorpigal (6061) on Sunday April 07 2019, @11:17AM (#825724)

      Yeah but you'd only have to do it *once* and then never again (and new devices would come pre-configured with the right zone).

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @09:20PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @09:20PM (#825506)

    Why even use numbers. Just make rename every hour like " ( FU C K T H i S Sh it !

    • (Score: 1) by sorpigal on Sunday April 07 2019, @11:23AM

      by sorpigal (6061) on Sunday April 07 2019, @11:23AM (#825725)

      Why even use numbers.

      It's useful to be able to track time intervals within a day "A 1 hour meeting starting at 11 ends at 12, so I can plan lunch for 12:15 and start my next activity by 13:00". Having these numbers linked to the position of the sun is not essential; if I changed my position on the planet, kept the same zone, and offset all the numbers by (say) 6, then I would have the same daylight as someone in Greenwich but I'd use different numbers. It would be weird at first but you'd quickly grow used to e.g. "noon" being at 06:00 on the clock. As a bonus coordinating with the London office would get easier because nobody would need to do date conversion math when setting up conference calls.

      </serious-answers-to-joke-questions>

      Cue jokes about "one hour" meetings never actually lasting that little time.