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posted by martyb on Saturday April 06 2019, @05:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the Everybody-Talks-About-It,-And-Finally-Somebody-Is-Doing-Something-About-It dept.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2019-04-04/oregon-senate-oks-permanent-daylight-saving-time

The Oregon Senate has passed a bill establishing permanent Daylight Saving Time in the state, and the Governor has signaled she supports the effort. If it passes the House (and possibly the US Congress, it is a bit ambiguous to me), it could end the semi-annual resetting of clocks which causes so much annoyance and increase of injury and deaths.

Personally speaking, I'd rather it settled on permanent Standard time than Daylight time, but as long as it is steady I think it's better than the current regime.

See also:
Texas efforts: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/03/05/1413228
Europe's efforts: http://fortune.com/2019/03/26/european-union-parliament-daylight-saving-time/
Mandatory XKCD: https://www.xkcd.com/1268/


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  • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @08:16PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @08:16PM (#825494)

    I care. I want the sun to be as high in the sky as it is going to get at "noon". And, I want "mid night" to come twelve hours later. Anything else is artificial bullshit.

    You realize that your "noon" and "midnight" definitions could only happen twice a year, right? But, if it will keep you inside for the rest of the time I'll write each of my representatives a letter every day until it happens.

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by RS3 on Saturday April 06 2019, @10:58PM (4 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Saturday April 06 2019, @10:58PM (#825537)

    Didn't think this one through, did you. You're a springtrap ready to snap your petty insults. What's that old saying? “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out (or write online) and remove all doubt.”

    As the length of daylight time changes throughout the year, the sunrise and sunset times stay pretty much symmetrical around noon. The sun appears lower in the sky in winter, but its peak is still "noon", 1/2 way between sunrise and sunset. All year long, every day. There's a slight variation for a couple of weeks around the solstices, but it's only a few minutes.

    Why don't you write your representatives and ask them to find you something productive to do.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @11:08PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 06 2019, @11:08PM (#825541)

      Fear not comrade. He will be assigned appropriate work in the mines, come the revolution.

      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday April 06 2019, @11:37PM (1 child)

        by RS3 (6367) on Saturday April 06 2019, @11:37PM (#825549)

        He's already living lower down, so it might be a upgrade. But he's sleazy enough to get work in the gold or diamond mines and smuggle some out. He'll jamb nuggets and diamonds in his sores. Nobody will want to look there.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07 2019, @09:53PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07 2019, @09:53PM (#825953)

          Lol look at the hypocrite! You gotta be an alt of Runaway's, keep chiming in when people correct him. Sure they are nitpicky but not wrong, which makes you a triggered jackass.

          About what I expect from conservative engineers, self important "geniuses" who get upset easily. Mega MAGA if you will.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Sunday April 07 2019, @02:34AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 07 2019, @02:34AM (#825604) Journal

      As the length of daylight time changes throughout the year, the sunrise and sunset times stay pretty much symmetrical around noon. The sun appears lower in the sky in winter, but its peak is still "noon", 1/2 way between sunrise and sunset.

      If this is you definition for noon (which is called the solar noon [wikipedia.org]), you are willing to accept that the time between two successive noons (the solar noon day) will vary through the year - see? the Earth orbit is elliptical.

      Even more, there will be only one longitude that will see an exact 24h solar noonday (and the antimeridian will experience an exact 24 solar midnight day). And this longitude will vary from one year to the other - the year not being an exact multiple of days.

      All year long, every day. There's a slight variation for a couple of weeks around the solstices, but it's only a few minutes.

      There are 4 days in a year when one solar noon day is the closest to 24 h: 11 Feb, 13 May, 25 Jul and 3 Nov.

      There are 2 days when the solar noon day is the longest: around 20 Jun with 13s longer, and 21 Dec with 30s longer.
      There are 2 days when the solar noon day is the shortest: around 25 Mar - 18s shorter - and 13 Sep is 22s shorter.

      Ummm... you were saying... "Better ..." what?

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday April 07 2019, @02:47AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 07 2019, @02:47AM (#825607) Journal

    You realize that your "noon" and "midnight" definitions could only happen twice a year, right?

    It will actually happen 4 times [wikipedia.org] somewhere around the globe (there are 4 moments when there exist places on earth experiencing an exact 24 h solar noon day).

    In a given particular location, it may not happen in a life-time - the solar year is not an exact multiple of solar days - the longitude where those 4 exact times happen will "wander" slowly across the globe.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07 2019, @09:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 07 2019, @09:56PM (#825955)

      It will actually happen 4 times [wikipedia.org] somewhere around the globe (there are 4 moments when there exist places on earth experiencing an exact 24 h solar noon day).

      But it will happen only 2 times where Runaway lives. If you read the rest of my comment, keeping him inside the other days of the year was the objective.