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Microsoft Announces PowerShell 7
Microsoft has just announced PowerShell 7, a new major release that comes only a few days after the company originally introduced version 6.2
And while it naturally makes more sense for the company to roll out PowerShell 6.3 rather than a whole new version 7.0, the company explains in a blog post that it's all as part of the efforts to align the versions of all platforms.
Steve Lee, Principal Software Engineer Manager, PowerShell, explains that Microsoft noticed a growing usage pattern on Linux, but not on Windows.
"Windows usage has not been growing as significantly, surprising given that PowerShell was popularized on the Windows platform," Lee explains. [...] The next version of PowerShell will thus be available on Windows, Linux, and macOS, and the company explains it'll be available with LTS (Long Term Servicing) and non-LTS plans.
Also at ZDNet.
Previously: MS Releases Powershell SDC - to Manage Config for.... Linux
Powershell for Linux
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by ilsa on Tuesday April 09 2019, @12:03AM (12 children)
*nix already provides shell scripting which does the vast majority of glue work you could need. For the fancier stuff, there's tons of other tools ranging from awk to python.
What benefit could Microsofts "It's a trap" PowerShell provide?
I suppose its of interest to those that feel Microsoft doesn't siphon enough telemetry data already.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 09 2019, @12:12AM
Mass fdisk of windows boxes with ease, why else?
(Score: 2, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Tuesday April 09 2019, @01:24AM (6 children)
A consistently implemented object oriented scripting language that works across all MS products and doesn't suck to work with. Now they're going to make it work across other platforms? Good stuff.
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Microsoft is not to be trusted of course, but this is a scripting language. Going to be interesting to see how they leverage it in their quest for endless gatekeeping revenue.
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(Score: 4, Touché) by c0lo on Tuesday April 09 2019, @07:29AM
Yes, please, anytime.
No, thanks, not PowerShell, it fails the "does not suck" condition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday April 09 2019, @10:23AM (2 children)
On the "does not suck" line (and still work across platforms), I stumbled a while ago on something that may "suck less": IronPython [ironpython.net]. I don't know by direct experience how well it does, but the guy that mentioned it has my respects as a softeng.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Tuesday April 09 2019, @12:26PM (1 child)
What is the advantage of IronPython over Python? Its web page [ironpython.net] seems to say it's compatible.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday April 09 2019, @12:44PM
Syntax of Python over .NET Framework or Core.
Which means a tad more sane syntax for an OO language in an interpreted script, with the power of accessing the OS of .NET.
In my books, makes a less sucking admin scripting language than PowerShell, a language that works on Win, OSX and Linux.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by gawdonblue on Tuesday April 09 2019, @10:26PM (1 child)
I'm calling bullshit on an "object oriented scripting language that works". OO is a paradigm that works, barely, in GUIs but sucks for nearly every other application. Unfortunately most people learn it these days as the only way to program, and I have had to deal with idiot contractors trying to implement "proper OO" in things as unsuitable as PL/SQL (hint why not to do this is in its name) and shell scripting.
Why do some people want to take something simple & reliable and fuck it over with stupid layers of abstraction and complex dependencies?
Fucking Poetterings everywhere.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 11 2019, @09:50PM
Devuan's tor daemon requires systemd now, at least on ceres/ascii. Figured this is as good a place to warn as any.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by canopic jug on Tuesday April 09 2019, @08:22AM
What benefit could Microsofts "It's a trap" PowerShell provide?
The benefits are to M$, not to system administrators or others. There have been ports of zsh and tcsh for around 20 years if not longer. So if it were just a matter of having a scripting language to help with system administration, the obvious choice would be to pull one of those off the shelf and roll it out in the Next Version. But since M$ wouldn't be able to futher its lock-in with either one, both will be ignored. The hard part for M$ is that it is well known that shell scripting is powerful, useful, and even essential to running large numbers of servers which is the market they are clutching at now. The reason that is the hard part, is that M$ has spend many years and lots of money disparraging the shell and now has to somehow turn that around without losing even more credibility among its fan base. The way to do that is to reinvent a square wheel^W^Wtheir own shell.
Imagine, if standard M$ resellers and Windows monkeys were familiar with zsh or tcsh, then they would not only be immune to the marketeering M$ has been carrying out against the shell, they would also make them less likely to not suggest or even fight an upgrade to FreeBSD or GNU/Linux, since key familiar tools would be there already.
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(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 09 2019, @02:18PM
Why not ? Don't you geeks always claim that Choice is Good(tm) ?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday April 09 2019, @02:45PM
I cannot believe nobody has answered this one yet.
The biggest benefit, I can see, is that PowerShell on Linux will require other things conceived in the damnable fires of Redmond. Thus PowerShell on Linux will promote the spread of systemd.
Can nobody else see that?
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeVilla on Friday April 12 2019, @04:07PM
My guess, to allow Linux admins who already automate the hell out of their Linux/Unix systems can more reliably automate the remote administration of windows systems via WMI in a heterogeneous environment.
Just guessing though. Windows was always the odd one out in any server room I saw it in. If it were up to me, I would leave it that way as gentle encouragement to get it out of the server room.