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If using the law to corral antivaxxers doesn’t work at first, try, try again. At least, that seems to be the lesson learned by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. On Tuesday, he declared a state of emergency and mandated residents of the Williamsburg neighborhood, where an outbreak of measles has been raging since last fall, get vaccinated for the viral disease. Those who choose not to will risk the penalty of a $1,000 fine.
https://gizmodo.com/new-york-city-orders-williamsburg-residents-to-get-vacc-1833917175
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New York City Orders Williamsburg Residents to Get Vaccinated for Measles or Face $1,000 Fine
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HELP! Man trapped in a human body!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 11 2019, @09:36PM (7 children)
No, there isn't. I have searched high and wide and have much experience with the medical literature. And if it did exist I know a table like the one I created would be presented proudly on the CDC home page (unless they wanted to hide the results for some reason).
You can't prove a negative but my search has been exhaustive. My conclusion is there is simply no way for us to directly compare the risks of measles vs the vaccine. We need to approximate it (my plan) or give up (your plan).
I have never been unable to find a medical paper I wanted online (and I am talking about tens of thousands over the years, many of them pre-WWII). This is a non-issue.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday April 11 2019, @10:03PM (6 children)
And yet you seem to be unaware of how common febrile seizures are in infants or that they are generally uncomplicated.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 11 2019, @10:11PM (5 children)
Umm.. What are you basing that on?
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday April 11 2019, @10:14PM (4 children)
The fact that you used it as a throw-in in your table.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 11 2019, @10:50PM
It was reported by the people who ran the vaccine trial, is there some reason I should not have included it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 11 2019, @10:55PM (2 children)
Anyway, whatever... now you're just doing weird nitpicking so you have some reason to ignore the facts. It is clear you don't have any useful input here.
Please find this non-existent clean data you think is required, or admit that there is no way to make a direct comparison between measles and vaccination complications. Therefore there is no empirical basis for recommending vaccines... Because if you demand clean data it really is one or the other.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday April 11 2019, @11:27PM (1 child)
You're the one who was making an assertion. It's your duty to either back it up with read facts of retract it.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 11 2019, @11:50PM
Don't even know what assertion you are referring to, you are just attempting to waste the time of someone who has clearly put more effort into understanding this topic than you.