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posted by chromas on Friday April 12 2019, @03:45AM   Printer-friendly
from the Microsoft-Loves-Linux dept.

Microsoft Say Edge May Come to Linux "Eventually"

When Microsoft announced it was switching the foundations of its home-grown Edge browser to a Chromium base we asked if it might allow the app to come to Linux.

[...] Microsoft's Kyle Pflug responded to the tux question on Twitter. He said that a Linux build is something the Edge team would "like to do eventually" but they 'can't commit to Linux just yet'.

Not yet – it's something we'd like to do eventually (our build system runs on Linux) but we're taking things one step at a time starting from Win10, and can't commit to Linux just yet.
— Kyle Pflug (@kylealden) April 8, 2019

[...] That said, the availability of Edge on Linux would help web developers working on Linux. They'd no longer need to keep a Windows VM within reach solely to double check changes.

[Editor's Comment: Irrelevant submitter's comment regarding systemd removed. --JR 120454 Apr]


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @05:22AM (24 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @05:22AM (#828490)

    Please note that Microsoft are using LINUX for their BUILD SYSTEM. Not their own Windows disaster. No wonder they are busy muscling in on Linuxland. Ubuntu/Canonical getting oh so friendly with Redmond starts making sense now. MS joining the Linux Foundation, makes sense now. Watch, in a near future release, MS will throw in the towel, like Apple did, and come to the *nix side. They might just bolt on their own UI, much like Apple used BSD and NEXXT. Microsoft, always copying others, and always at least 10 years behind.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Bot on Friday April 12 2019, @05:31AM

    by Bot (3902) on Friday April 12 2019, @05:31AM (#828493) Journal

    They are not late, anon, they needed the missing piece of the puzzle. They wanted to know if unix could be made to suck the microsoft way. Because you can make anything suck, unix included, yet the microsoft way is a peculiar way of suck. It was no easy task, but lennart pulled it. Look at the timeline.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 12 2019, @06:08AM (15 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday April 12 2019, @06:08AM (#828510) Journal

    I doubt that. Rather I see the Linux Foundation as a gigantic Trojan horse in the original sense of the word, and RedHat their team of assassins. They are trying to corrupt and zombify Linux. They can't beat Linux, so they're going to try and eat it alive.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @08:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @08:12AM (#828528)

      You can't extinguish until you embrace.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @09:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @09:11AM (#828533)

      I doubt that. Rather I see the Linux Foundation as a gigantic Trojan horse in the original sense of the word, and RedHat their team of assassins. They are trying to corrupt and zombify Linux. They can't beat Linux, so they're going to try and eat it alive.

      IBM hasn't updated AIX for power9 and been focusing on linux for quite some time so I highly doubt Red Hat will ever do anything to harm it.

      Of course, IBM is still IBM and they do tend to fuck things up royally...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @05:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @05:57PM (#828690)

        What is it that the man has picked up? "The truth". That must be bad business for you. "Not at all, I am going to help him organize it"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @12:00PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @12:00PM (#828558)

      Everything Red Hat makes is open source/free software and they fund development of hundreds of projects. IBM may ruin everything, but for now the so-called Trojan Horse is boosting wall strength, manufacturing weapons, recruiting troops, and otherwise doing more than any other company to strengthen the metaphorical Troy. I know it's popular to hate systemd, but if systemd itself is the Trojan Horse it seems odd that every giant tech company has been hoodwinked alongside Debian and Arch maintainers.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 13 2019, @08:08PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 13 2019, @08:08PM (#829072)

        i have to agree. i don't use rhel/fedora currently but red hat is a good citizen from what i've seen.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Friday April 12 2019, @02:17PM (4 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 12 2019, @02:17PM (#828600) Journal

      Remember that Microsoft acquired The Linux Foundation in 2016.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @03:30PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @03:30PM (#828637)

      If it weren't for redhat linux would be too hard for you to use.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 12 2019, @06:22PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday April 12 2019, @06:22PM (#828700) Journal

        Funny you should say that, since I started with Linux in 2004. On Gentoo. To this day I refuse to touch RPM distros and run some combination of Artix, Gentoo, and Slackware, all systemd-free.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Friday April 12 2019, @06:30PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 12 2019, @06:30PM (#828701) Journal

        I find that quite hilarious.

        Rewind to 1999. I'm a classic Mac software developer and Apple fanboy at this point in time. Have been writing code for two decades if you include college. Not just Mac code. PC code. Some 8086 assembler. Minicomputer code in college, including assembler. So I'm not exactly ignorant.

        I've been reading books on Linux for about a year. I don't know anything about PC hardware and I'm not about to build one for my first Linux experience. (Although I did build my 2nd box.)

        So I order a PC that comes with Red Hat installed.

        Should be easy right?

        I find the fvwm86 or whatever they called it desktop environment abysmally bad. (Remember Mac guy here deeply invested in creating software that 'ordinary people' can use.) The command line works as I expect and have studied. But I don't want to work only in the command line.

        I ask a friend who recommends SuSE. So I get SuSE 5.1. Later 5.2. It's great. Desktop is still X, but quite usable. So is command line. And YaST was nice. Etc. Polished. But I switched to Ubuntu in 2006.

        If it were for Red Hat I would have given up on Linux.

        Once on SuSE, I had to set up bind, httpd, etc. (I previously had these on a Mac, on a static IP, back when I was among the first in the country to have cable modem. Running web, ftp and dns on a classic mac was unstable. To put it kindly.) Setting those up was about what I expected from all my prior reading.

        This was in a day when the cable tv company had no clue that I ran a server or that it also was a router NAT'ing multiple other computers in my home. You couldn't buy these routers at Office Depot, etc. just yet.

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        • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Sunday April 14 2019, @12:02AM (1 child)

          by acid andy (1683) on Sunday April 14 2019, @12:02AM (#829172) Homepage Journal

          If it were for Red Hat I would have given up on Linux.

          I had a similar experience a few years after yours. Something I did broke my internet connection and even reinstalling couldn't get it back. I never did figure out what it was and had to go crawling back to M$ in frustration. :( Things are much better these days, thankfully.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 14 2019, @10:46AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 14 2019, @10:46AM (#829312)

            Yeah, but Microsoft fucked me in the ass, repeatedly, with Wordperfect. I will never forget, I will never forgive, and I say to you, "Run, do not look back, just run! Until you find another operating system. Any operating system, that is not Microsoft." Your planet will thank you!

  • (Score: 2) by TheFool on Friday April 12 2019, @12:17PM

    by TheFool (7105) on Friday April 12 2019, @12:17PM (#828559)

    Please note that Microsoft are using LINUX for their BUILD SYSTEM.

    They don't (at least not for the kernel), they have their own internal nonsense toolchain that they use but it's a Windows-based one. That's part of the reason that Visual Studio + the WDK is perpetually broken these days, because no one outside Microsoft uses it.

  • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Friday April 12 2019, @12:28PM (1 child)

    by TheRaven (270) on Friday April 12 2019, @12:28PM (#828561) Journal
    Way back, Internet Explorer ran on a load of platforms. There were UNIX builds for Solaris and HP-UX, right up until IE5. Edge already runs on Linux, just not X11 Linux - there's been a version for Android (and iOS) for a while.
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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @02:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 12 2019, @02:15PM (#828597)

      Way back then when I was sysadmin for a couple Sparc Stations, some contractor installed Explorer on one of them and it brought that Sparc Station to its knees. I also had a call once from a VAX admin about one of our employees bringing his VAX to its knees with Xroach running in the background. The good old days.

  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday April 12 2019, @08:40PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday April 12 2019, @08:40PM (#828734)

    Please note that Microsoft are using LINUX for their BUILD SYSTEM.

    Is that what they're actually saying?

    (our build system runs on Linux)

    One could also interpret this statement that "runs on Linux" means "the build system is also available for Linux."

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  • (Score: 2) by tibman on Friday April 12 2019, @09:53PM (2 children)

    by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 12 2019, @09:53PM (#828753)

    Microsoft has been doing a lot of work in linux lately. Their cloud solution (Azure) runs in linux. They have MSSQL running in linux. C#/.NetCore programs compile and run in linux. They have a web server called Kestrel that runs in linux. Visual Studio Code runs in linux. You can be a full microsoft stack dev within a linux environment now. Almost all of it is free too.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 14 2019, @10:50AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 14 2019, @10:50AM (#829313)

      their cloud solution (Azure) runs in linux.

      Would have to, would it not? Much like when they took over Hotmail, and had to retain the linux back end, because Windoze is not an actual operating system?

      • (Score: 2) by tibman on Sunday April 21 2019, @12:19AM

        by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 21 2019, @12:19AM (#832790)

        Widows server sucks. It's heavy and just sucks.

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