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posted by martyb on Monday April 15 2019, @07:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the Public-Airwaves dept.

Plans for the U.S. government to build a national 5G network secured against China appear to have been quashed following intense telecom industry lobbying:

The Trump Administration made a few announcements about building super-fast 5G wireless networks on Friday, but the real purpose of the White House event was buried beneath the headlines.

On the surface, President Trump and Federal Communications Commission chair Ajit Pai were promoting the schedule for a new spectrum auction and funds for extending faster Internet service to rural areas. But the auction, now slated to start on December 10, has been on tap for the "second half of 2019" since last year. And the funds for rural Internet connections, which don't have to use 5G technology or even wireless, were just an extension of a long-existing program.

Instead, the real agenda was to try and kill a well-funded lobbying effort to convince the federal government to take over 5G airwaves and build a nationalized network that private carriers would have to lease from the government. Supporters included prominent Republicans Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove, as well as Trump 2020 campaign manager Brad Parscale.

But the idea has driven the U.S. telecommunications industry, which is spending tens of billions of dollars to build private 5G networks, bonkers.

Ajit Pai talked about "up to" gigabit connections for rural homes.

Also at Engadget.

See also: FCC "consumer advisory" panel includes ALEC, big foe of municipal broadband

Related: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai Proposes Raising Rural Broadband Speeds
Ajit Pai's Rosy Broadband Deployment Claim May be Based on Gigantic Error
Ajit Pai Wants to Cap Spending on Broadband for Poor People and Rural Areas


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  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday April 15 2019, @07:57PM (6 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 15 2019, @07:57PM (#829996) Journal

    If you fear the electromagnetic specrtrum so much, I've come across critical information for you.

    YOUR VERY DNA IS NOW HELD TOGETHER WITH ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCE. The only known cure is to lower your body temperature to -273.15 C.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @08:04PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @08:04PM (#830001)

    mm wave != entire electromagnetic spectrum

    Where do all you idiots come from who call other people dumb while not having the first clue about what you are talking about?

    The "issues" (or features, depending on your goals) with mm wave have been known since snowcrash was written decades ago.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by ikanreed on Monday April 15 2019, @09:14PM (2 children)

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 15 2019, @09:14PM (#830062) Journal

      Touché what? Who says "good point" to the notion that wavelengths with magnitude 1000-2000x below the ranges that cause harm to cells are dangerous?

      The "issues" (or features, depending on your goals) with mm wave have been known since snowcrash was written decades ago.

      Is bullshit. That's fiction, you're citing fiction. The scientific literature on it is incredibly clear, it's harmless unless the total energy gets high enough to literally cook you. You're exactly as crazy as the people who insist that wifi routers give them headaches.

      And the idea that it reflects a privacy intrusion because it's also used in scanners is also really dumb. It doesn't penetrate glass, metal, wood, brick, foliage. Back-scatter techniques require knowing very precise relationship between transmitter and receiver location. It's like thinking that because black holes emit x-rays they'll produce those neat photographs you get from your radiologist. It's so incredibly asinine that you deign in your extraordinary and profound ignorance, you have the fucking gall to say anyone else doesn't know what they're talking about.

      Go back to complaining that wifi gives you a headache.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @09:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @09:36PM (#830082)

        it's harmless unless the total energy gets high enough to literally cook you

        You are basing this on studies that only look at the expected acute damage from thermal and ionization effects... I haven't read them but if they are of typical medical research quality are likely to be very crappy as well. But besides, they don't even know what type of stuff to look for.. but some possibilities are intermittent porifying of the plasma membrane, increased/decreased rate of microtuble construction, denaturing hydrogen bonds, etc.

        Back-scatter techniques require knowing very precise relationship between transmitter and receiver location

        Besides "back-scatter techniques", I would expect looking for characteristic "shadows" to be easier. But also could imagine being able to triangulate a "very precise relationship" and combine with other info to do whatever privacy invading stuff our friends in the intelligence, marketing, and social media industries desire.

      • (Score: 2) by DavePolaschek on Tuesday April 16 2019, @03:31PM

        by DavePolaschek (6129) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @03:31PM (#830438) Homepage Journal

        ... wifi routers give them headaches...

        I don't know about them, but WiFi routers usually give me headaches. The UI on them is almost always miserable, causing me to bang my head on the desk while trying to configure them.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 15 2019, @09:40PM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 15 2019, @09:40PM (#830087) Journal

    This is the same stuff they use at the airport to see through your clothes.

    If you fear the electromagnetic specrtrum so much, I've come across critical information for you.

    I've got some other critical information.

    If you don't he doesn't like EM radiation at airports to see under your clothes, the TSA agents can pat you down and feel under your clothes instead.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @09:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @09:48PM (#830095)

      They also stick their fingers down your pants now.