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posted by martyb on Monday April 15 2019, @08:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the they-don't-build-them-like-they-used-to dept.

The deputy mayor of Paris, Emmanuel Gregoire, said the cathedral had suffered "colossal damages", and the emergency services were trying to salvage the art and other priceless pieces stored in the cathedral. A cathedral spokesman said the entire wooden interior was burning and likely to be destroyed.

Sounds like the whole thing may go up in flames. There's a reason for modern building codes. A structure made entirely out of wood, is a huge bonfire, waiting to happen. Thankfully, at this time, there are no reported deaths.

[Update: 2019-04-16 @ 0222: The Cathedral is not "made entirely out of wood" as was suggested above. There is a great deal of stone work in its construction which can be readily seen on its Wikipedia page. I was at work when I heard news of the fire, immediately took a break, loaded the story queue on my phone, saw a story submission on the fire, and pushed it out to the community. In my haste to get the story out, I failed to notice the erroneous claim about wood construction. I apologize for the error. --martyb]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-today-2019-04-15/


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  • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 15 2019, @09:39PM (23 children)

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday April 15 2019, @09:39PM (#830084) Journal

    BREAKING NEWS UPDATE:

    Firefighters just in the last few minutes are reporting that the fire is starting to be contained and apparently will not spread to the iconic towers on the main facade.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @09:46PM (22 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @09:46PM (#830091)

    Why do people keep sharing "breaking news" without giving a link so others can see the source? That is twice in this thread. Elsewhere I saw someone claim that police had arrested 'four Muslims with a drone." Once again no source.

    • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 15 2019, @09:58PM (19 children)

      by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday April 15 2019, @09:58PM (#830105) Journal

      Why do people keep sharing "breaking news" without giving a link so others can see the source?

      Well, by the time I posted, the news that the main structure had been saved was already reported by dozens of mainstream news sources... I was more interested in getting back to reading them than trying to find the most informative/best written to link to share here. But I thought people here might want to know if they weren't checking major news outlets at the same time as reading this page.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:01PM (18 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:01PM (#830108)

        If you are in such a rush it is both faster and better to only post the link and leave your commentary or selected snippet out of it.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 15 2019, @10:19PM (17 children)

          by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday April 15 2019, @10:19PM (#830116) Journal

          FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!

          I am a serious lover of history, and I've spent the past couple hours in near tears over this, and I thought I'd try to share some hopeful news with this community.

          It's not "my commentary" -- it was a fact, an event, a fucking piece of real-world news, you anonymous cowardly piece of shit who dares to put my attempt at providing information in the same post as obvious troll BS about Muslims. You want to have a debate about community standards and commentary on this site, LOG THE FUCK IN, YOU COWARDLY CHILD. And subscribe too, you fucking bastard.

          In my years on this site, I have never swore at another poster, so congratulations for being the first to manage to piss me off so much, you cowardly piece of shit.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:22PM (11 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:22PM (#830120)

            Your post has all the qualities of a fake news post, that is why it got mixed together. Welcome to the internet.

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday April 15 2019, @10:32PM (10 children)

              by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Monday April 15 2019, @10:32PM (#830130) Journal

              Please point to ANY single post out of my thousands of posts on this site where I have ever posted fake news or anything that I haven't made a reasonable attempt at researching.

              You see, that's what comes from reputation, you fucking anonymous coward. Log the fuck in, if you want to actually participate with the serious discussion here.

              And yeah, so after posting two informative posts including a link to a NYT article demonstrating that I have knowledge about this building, I lamented the whole structure could come crumbling down. And a few minutes later, I saw the main structure is apparently saved, so -- with joy -- I posted in the same thread that I had already posted informative posts in... As I went back to read the details.

              Unlike you, I have standards. I'm not going to post a link to some random news source without verifying it's a really well-written source. I didn't have time for that verification. I did have time to see the simple fact I cited was real, as were the previous two informative posts I made.

              And you say my post had "all the qualities of a fake news post"? Log the fuck in, you fucking cowardly child.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:43PM (5 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:43PM (#830138)

                Instead of lamenting that the whole structure could come tumbling down, others of us were doing something useful and praying for the fire to end. And our prayers worked since the main structure was saved. So instead of fueling your vanity by drawing attention to yourself, why not take a moment to thank the Anonymous Cowards who had the presence of mind to ask God to save this beautiful structure.

                • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Pslytely Psycho on Tuesday April 16 2019, @02:11AM (3 children)

                  by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @02:11AM (#830240)

                  Hahahaha....'Useful,' and 'Praying' in the same sentence.

                  There is nothing more useless than 'thoughts and prayers.'

                  "You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci. Two reasons; first of all, I think he's a good actor. Okay. To me, that counts. Second; he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with. For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog. Joe Pesci straightened that cock-sucker out with one visit."

                  -George Carlin

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                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Tuesday April 16 2019, @06:01AM (1 child)

                    by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @06:01AM (#830300) Journal

                    Hahahaha....'Useful,' and 'Praying' in the same sentence.

                    If you believe in it, praying is indeed useful for your psyche.

                    --
                    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
                    • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:36AM

                      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @09:36AM (#830345)

                      And put that way I would of wholeheartedly agreed.

                      However, it was phrased as "Instead of lamenting that the whole structure could come tumbling down, others of us were doing something useful and praying for the fire to end. And our prayers worked since the main structure was saved."
                      Insinuating divine intervention, which if it were, why was it allowed to burn in the first place?
                      God has the best PR anywhere, if it's good, it's gods will, if it's bad god works in mysterious ways.
                      Useful prayers might of been for the firefighters who put themselves on the line to save this historic building. But no, god gets the credit, while the firefighters were not even considered. I wonder how it would of fared on prayer alone?

                      And besides, once in a while ya just gotta troll someone.

                      Peace out!

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                  • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday April 16 2019, @02:35PM

                    by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 16 2019, @02:35PM (#830417)

                    Prayer is absolutely useful!

                    It is useful for the person praying to feel good about doing nothing.

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                    The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
                • (Score: 2) by DutchUncle on Tuesday April 16 2019, @05:30PM

                  by DutchUncle (5370) on Tuesday April 16 2019, @05:30PM (#830492)

                  If I had to choose between "prayers" and "atheist and satanist firemen spraying water on the fire", I'll choose the satanists, thanks.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:04PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:04PM (#830156)

                Don't feed the trolls

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:06PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:06PM (#830157)

                Going to be OK dude? Don't have a stroke. Maybe you should step away from the 'puter for a while. Go beat your kids, your dog or your wife or boyfriend. Or all of them. But please post photos and videos so we can continue to mock and troll you. Sorry about your building, pray harder next time so God doesn't burn it the fuck down and laugh at you praying uselessly while he does so.

              • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @01:10AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @01:10AM (#830212)

                > Log the fuck in, if you want to actually participate with the serious discussion here.

                FWIW some AC posts aren't total garbo.

                Shitty that there's the shitposter ACs too.

                Some of us are doing what we can to bump average AC post quality, though. Honestly.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @01:26AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @01:26AM (#830216)

                  FWIW some AC posts aren't total garbo.

                  And I bet one of those types of AC posts tends to include sources more often than the other.

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:41PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:41PM (#830169)

            Yeah don't engage the idiots. If you really want to reply then either go with a short dismissive, or just troll them right back. You're one of the more honorable commenters around here so I suggest simply ignoring idiotic posts. No one would read their demand for a source and think negatively about you since you weren't making some opinionated bullshit claim.

            I used to get more annoyed at the trolls, now I just troll back or simply call them idiots. This AC troll seems like some little shithead pretending to be a more liberal atheist asshole in order to make "them" look bad. Undoubtedly someone who has been repeatedly called out, had their intelligence and beliefs insulted, and is now waging their own shitty psy-ops campaign. But hey, I'm just another opinionated AC bridge enthusiast.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @12:17AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 16 2019, @12:17AM (#830187)

            Consolations.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:03PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @10:03PM (#830109)

      So it *was* Muslims... thanks for settling that. We should prohibit Muslims from having anything to do with drones (except for being targets).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 15 2019, @11:43PM (#830170)

        And people don't think the US can go full 3rd Reich... thanks for making the world just *that* much worse. May your drones go Blade Runner and may Hell actually exist.