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posted by Fnord666 on Monday April 22 2019, @01:23PM   Printer-friendly
from the Happiness-is-mandatory.-The-social-credit-system-is-your-friend dept.

China's courts have now added 13.5 million individuals to the social-credit punishment list.

People deemed untrustworthy in China have been blocked from the purchase of more than 25 million plane and train tickets, as the country works to build the massive social-credit system designed to monitor and shape the conduct of its citizens

The system covers "19 key areas of dishonesty" such as failing to make court-ordered payments (China has no personal bankruptcy statutes), spending habits, turnstile violations, and filial piety, as well as

spreading online rumours and false information, committing financial fraud, delivering unlicensed medical treatment, evading taxes, cheating on tests and fixing sports matches.

Chinese officials are careful to point out that this is only the beginning of the process of implementing a social-credit system. There are also multiple blacklists involved, not one big blacklist like the United State's 'No-Fly' list.

In total, the number of blacklists in China now likely numbers in the hundreds, said Dai Xin, a professor at Ocean University of China School of Law. But it remains experimental, he said, like many initiatives in China, where "governments just go ahead with some vague assumptions of what may happen if a measure is adopted."

Critics call the system the beginning of a "digital panopticon", while other Chinese scholars and officials defend the system as one that will ease life for those who display good conduct and integrity even as it deprives the untrustworthy of access to services.


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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 22 2019, @09:12PM (7 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 22 2019, @09:12PM (#833524) Journal

    filial piety

    If parents, ancestors, etc want respect, they should earn it.

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  • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Monday April 22 2019, @09:38PM (6 children)

    by Alfred (4006) on Monday April 22 2019, @09:38PM (#833535) Journal
    LOL, you literally exist because of you ancestors. Some subcultures, not specifying which, have a "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it" policy.
    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 22 2019, @09:51PM (2 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 22 2019, @09:51PM (#833539) Journal

      Some subcultures, not specifying which, have a "I brought you into this world . . .

      So, you're saying . . . abortion is legal, up until the fetus reaches age 18 and can support itself and move out?

      you literally exist because of you ancestors

      That does not guarantee they are worthy of respect. I'm not saying they aren't necessarily worthy of respect. And I'm not saying mine specifically are not worthy of respect.

      But there certainly are parents or ancestors that do not merit respect just because they can create offspring -- as if doing so is a great achievement. I wouldn't blame the kids for the sins of the parents, but I would still blame the parents. Maybe the kids want to get their name changed once they grow up.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23 2019, @02:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23 2019, @02:20AM (#833673)

        I just love how in some cultures parents and grandparents are revered so much that by law they can see their children and grandchildren even if they have been complete bastards to them. In one case the father beat the heck out of his kid, who then kept the father away from the grandchildren. A court ruled the grandfather could visit the grandchildren even though the bastard indicated the he would harm the grandchildren in the same way.

      • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Tuesday April 23 2019, @02:42PM

        by Alfred (4006) on Tuesday April 23 2019, @02:42PM (#833864) Journal
        Most subcultures, including the one referenced, are stupid. Presenting their stance is just for counterpoint and does not reflect the opinion of the messenger (me).

        Many parents are not worthy of respect because they do not live up to the responsibility they brought upon themselves. At the very least every child is worthy of a good (first) name and not some crap fad name but some parents can't even do that. Sins of the parents be upon the parents but the children suffer from it also.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 22 2019, @10:18PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 22 2019, @10:18PM (#833554)

      I know man I read the GP going "There it is! There's that Millenial entitlement that will doom their whole shitty generation." I'm a Millenial myself, but I emigrated here from the Soviet block in early 90s, so I'm not as retarded as the rest.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 22 2019, @11:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 22 2019, @11:22PM (#833594)

        Ha, do you even realize you have it completely backwards? Asking someone to earn their respect is entitlement? Time to re-evaluate your personal beliefs bub.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23 2019, @01:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 23 2019, @01:37AM (#833650)

      Someone brought you into existence without your consent, so you owe them nothing. Parenting the children you chose to bring into existence is the bare minimum you can do. The real entitlement is expecting others to respect you when you haven't earned it.