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Pro-Vaccine Nurse Defends Family After Mumps Outbreak Among Her Fully Vaccinated Family

posted by martyb on Tuesday April 30 2019, @07:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the have-you-ever-seen-a-single-mump? dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

Kami Altenberg Schaal has been a professional nurse for 22 years. She is pro-vaccine. She gets the flu shot every year as a requirement for her employment, and she vaccinates her family.

[...] Her entire family has been vaccinated with the MMR vaccine, and yet 4 out of 5 members of her family came down with the mumps. Her daughter is a freshman in college, and got the mumps from school.

[...] She isolated her daughter for 5 days ("I know how to isolate a patient, I'm a nurse"), and reported her case to the department of health.

All the members of her family also got booster shots of the MMR vaccine.

17 days after her daughter's exposure, her husband and son woke up with mumps.

After notifying the health department, Kami notified her son's school district as well.

What happened next was apparently something she had not anticipated. Even though her family was fully vaccinated and she followed all the proper medical protocols for dealing with the mumps, many people in her community began to blame her, including some of her medical colleagues, for not vaccinating their children (even though she had!)

[...] Finally, Kami herself woke up with the mumps. She had been tested and was supposedly immune. She had taken the booster. But she ended up getting the mumps anyway.

[...] The department of health nurse was required to send out another letter to the school district, so Kami asked the nurse if she could "put the truth" in the letter to the school district that her son was vaccinated, because she feared being blamed in error, once again, for not vaccinating her children.

The nurse allegedly replied "no."

        They will not put that in a letter, because it could give the anti-vaxx movement some fodder.

        So they would not protect my family by saying we did the right things, so I had to protect my family. I'm the one who has to defend my family.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2019/pro-vaccine-nurse-of-22-years-defends-her-family-after-mumps-outbreak-among-her-fully-vaccinated-family-as-she-was-wrongly-accused-of-not-vaccinating/

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @11:10AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @11:10AM (#836617)

    This is about mumps, not measles. And you need to compare those numbers to "measles like illness", which all would have been diagnosed as measles before widespread blood testing. The only number I've ever found was 20,000 cases in 2004.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @12:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @12:09PM (#836637)

    "Indeed, an average of only 100 cases of measles are confirmed annually [32], despite the fact that >20,000 tests are conducted [28], directly suggesting the low predictive value of clinical suspicion alone. "

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1510610 [nih.gov]

  • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Tuesday April 30 2019, @02:13PM (6 children)

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Tuesday April 30 2019, @02:13PM (#836686) Journal

    And the outbreaks of measles show what happens because of anti-vaccination. So it is relevant.

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    This sig for rent.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @02:38PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @02:38PM (#836697)

      These outbreaks of measles are proximately triggered by exposure to sick immigrants. More generally though, this outbreak is nothing compared to what is coming.

      There is a giant measles epidemic on the way among adults who escaped exposure (vaccine failure, etc) and whose immunity has waned due to weak exposure to the virus. Probably not this year since measles season is almost over though. This is going to be a huge problem (and not just politically for the vaccine pushers) which is why there is all the fear mongering. They want you to blame a tiny group of "anti-vaxxers" when it happens, instead of them.

      We are currently in week 18:
      https://image.ibb.co/iM5f4S/Measles_Cases_By_Week.png [image.ibb.co]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @05:04PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @05:04PM (#836772)

        These outbreaks of measles are proximately triggered by exposure to sick immigrants.

        Actually, not likley. [uscis.gov] Next time, learn some facts before spewing bullshit!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @06:05PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @06:05PM (#836787)

          Vaccination requirements don't count for illegal immigrants ("travelers"):

          These outbreaks are linked to travelers who brought measles back from other countries such as Israel, Ukraine, and the Philippines, where large measles outbreaks are occurring

          https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html [cdc.gov]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @07:33PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @07:33PM (#836841)

            Vaccination requirements don't count for illegal immigrants ("travelers"):

            Point taken. Do you know of any outbreaks here in the USA linked to illegal immigrants? Serious question.

            These outbreaks are linked to travelers who brought measles back from other countries such as Israel, Ukraine, and the Philippines, where large measles outbreaks are occurring

            ...And then you lost the plot again. These are usually (though, not exclusively) Americans who travel overseas, not "immigrants"; they typically go abroad and get infected then come back home. Yeah, that's kind of an important distinction.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @07:57PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @07:57PM (#836850)

              Washington state epidemiologist Dr. Scott Lindquist said that so-called 'patient zero' in the ongoing outbreak was someone who was visiting the U.S. from outside the country, according to ABC News radio affiliate KOMO Radio.

              "There was a large group of kids that were exposed to a visitor from outside the country that developed measles, and then what quickly happened is all those kids who were unimmunized actually went to public places like Ikea and Costco and the Portland Trailblazers game and they then spread it to anyone in the population that was unimmunized," Lindquist said in the KOMO Radio interview.

              https://abcnews.go.com/Health/patient-measles-outbreak-foreigner-common-outbreaks-start/story?id=60884130 [go.com]

              Of course they are not going to ask if they have a valid visa or not...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @04:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @04:50PM (#836766)

      FALSE FACTS, until you prove anti-vac and pro-vac failures. Learn science that take policy.