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Kami Altenberg Schaal has been a professional nurse for 22 years. She is pro-vaccine. She gets the flu shot every year as a requirement for her employment, and she vaccinates her family.
[...] Her entire family has been vaccinated with the MMR vaccine, and yet 4 out of 5 members of her family came down with the mumps. Her daughter is a freshman in college, and got the mumps from school.
[...] She isolated her daughter for 5 days ("I know how to isolate a patient, I'm a nurse"), and reported her case to the department of health.
All the members of her family also got booster shots of the MMR vaccine.
17 days after her daughter's exposure, her husband and son woke up with mumps.
After notifying the health department, Kami notified her son's school district as well.
What happened next was apparently something she had not anticipated. Even though her family was fully vaccinated and she followed all the proper medical protocols for dealing with the mumps, many people in her community began to blame her, including some of her medical colleagues, for not vaccinating their children (even though she had!)
[...] Finally, Kami herself woke up with the mumps. She had been tested and was supposedly immune. She had taken the booster. But she ended up getting the mumps anyway.
[...] The department of health nurse was required to send out another letter to the school district, so Kami asked the nurse if she could "put the truth" in the letter to the school district that her son was vaccinated, because she feared being blamed in error, once again, for not vaccinating her children.
The nurse allegedly replied "no."
They will not put that in a letter, because it could give the anti-vaxx movement some fodder.
So they would not protect my family by saying we did the right things, so I had to protect my family. I'm the one who has to defend my family.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday April 30 2019, @07:42PM (6 children)
> True enough, but the "personal protection" angle of gun ownership just doesn't fly with assault weapons.
You, your farm or your factory, 3 or four bad guys breaking in, maybe armed themselves. What do you pick?
- the phone to call 911
- a cal 22
- a fucking UZI
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 30 2019, @08:39PM (3 children)
And exactly how often does this kind of thing happen, even in gun-crazy USA? Seriously, how often does an armed citizen need to stare down 3 or 4 (possibly) armed bad guys simultaneously? Do you have any stats for this? Because, frankly, this sounds like a typical Internet Tough Guy paranoid fantasy. Show me some stats.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @12:37AM
Recent news, multiple attackers:
pajama clad lady defends herself form 3 armed attackers, 911 lady is useless (call at 3:59): https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=XzEno0X_yBc [youtube.com]
https://www.click2houston.com/news/1-dead-2-men-hospitalized-after-shooting-in-north-houston [click2houston.com]
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541 [nbcnews.com]
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/houston-man-defends-home-shoots-5-attackers-with-ak-47/ [wideopenspaces.com]
It takes some kind of hubris to think victims shouldn't be able to protect themselves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:59PM
it happens in big cities for sure. i've been shot at and nearly stabbed a few times (surrounded with intent to stab, but rescued by my own wit or friends with better weapons).
(Score: 2) by Demena on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:55AM
Twice in my life (70 years) I have had to “face down” multiple possibly armed aggressors. You cannot say it does not happen. Oh, and that is in Australia.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday April 30 2019, @08:42PM
See, the life I have led, in high crime areas, with gang violence, regular gun battles on the streets, etc. I've never felt any safer with a gun than without.
Sure, we're I hiding in a closet waiting for bad guys to pass my gunslit, then the gun might make me feel safer.
I actually walked between two combatants as they were drawing on each other... My option was to turn and run like a pansy back into the KFC I just left (all glass front, would have had to dive over the register counter for cover, and doing that might have drawn fire from the employees). Hooker on the sidelines commented "that man there, he ain't afraid of nothin'". Yes, I was afraid of the 9mm the big guy just pulled, but my but my instinct was "they're none of my business and I'm none of theirs.". I guess that worked out ok that time... Nobody fired a shot until I was well out of sight around the corner and down the street.
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(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday April 30 2019, @11:51PM
Answer: None of the above. If you own a factory or a large enough farm that such a massive break-in makes sense, I'd expect you've got security personnel tasked with handling such stuff. That security personnel, if it is worth the money, will have figured out the appropriate reaction before you even figured out what happened.
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