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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the adjusting-the-vertical-hold dept.

Samsung has shown off a TV that can rotate into portrait orientation:

Samsung has unveiled a TV that switches from a horizontal, landscape-style orientation to vertical - so it can easily display smartphone content. The 43in device is called Sero and comes with an integrated easel-like stand upon which the screen pivots. It will go on sale in South Korea towards the end of May and cost 1.89m won (£1,250).

One TV analyst said it was an interesting concept - but might have limited applications. Sero will come with a microphone and Samsung's virtual assistant Bixby built in. It can also be set up to display photographs, a clock face or other images. Among the content users might choose to watch on it may be a new series of shows by Snapchat, designed for mobile consumption and set to be launched in May.

See also: Samsung thinks millennials want vertical TVs


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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:15PM (3 children)

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:15PM (#837266)

    The trigonometry and ergonomics can be painful with larger monitors in portrait and if you buy multiple smaller monitors to run them in portrait mode then why not just run a larger in landscape....

    https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/ergonomics/office/monitor_positioning.html [ccohs.ca]

    Lots of ink spilt on ergonomics, lots nonsense, but its generally not very controversial across many sources that the top of the monitor should be eye level and the bottom should be no lower than 30 degrees down.

    I have a 24 inch diagonal aka 12 tall 20 wide times three on my desk. The top is level with my eyes and seems to measure 23 inches from center top of display to my eyes. Each of the three monitors run 2560x1440 and the fonts when cranked up look absolutely beautiful.

    Anti-aliasing hurts my eyes makes the image fuzzy and makes my eyes work overtime and disoriented because things never snap 100% into sharp focus because of how AA works, opinions online seem to vary.

    Anyway the trig works out that 12 inches tall at 23 inches away is arctan 12/23 which I can't do in my head but google claims is 27 degrees down tilt at the bottom of the monitor which is near perfect immersion, along with three monitors making it near wrap around. It is in fact pretty nice in landscape mode.

    There's no consensus in ergonomic study for RPA. You get claims of everything from one to two feet being the ideal distance for work based on resting focus distance vs detail level vs cross eyes vs who knows really prolly astrology or similar nonsense. Interestingly from an evolutionary standpoint casually comfortably bent elbows seem to keep whatever is in my hands around 20 inches away from my eyes which is mostly in line with ivory tower ergonomic BS I've read and is pretty close to how far away my eyes are from the center of the top of my center monitor (plus or minus wiggling in chair, slouching, etc).

    The wrap around effect of three landscape monitors makes me subjectively feel too close although after the first couple days it was super comfy, so there's that side issue. I donno maybe people with claustrophobia might not like wrap around landscape monitors; I'm OK with it personally.

    If I tried to flip them to portrait my eyes are only 26 inches above my knees (plus or minus slouch) so technically I could fit the now 20 inch tall portrait mode monitors along with half a foot of desk to hold keyboard and multiple trackballs. However arctan 20/23 is about 41 degrees downward which dramatically exceeds most every ergonomic guideline I can find. Its just too tall!

    Yeah in theory it should work, but "cheap prosumer" hardware already seems to be near ergonomically perfect.

    Personally I would prefer about five mathematically square monitors or seven portrait monitors rather than three landscape monitors. I don't notice my eyes refocusing on side monitors but presumably I am exercising my eyeball focus muscles moving from 23 inches at center center top to something like 29 inches at extreme peripheral edges of the cluster. Possibly that refocusing is actually good exercise for my eyes?

    There's a lot of snake oil in ergonomics, but some real info buried deep within... I had to hack my desk at a former employer because an "ergonomic expert" declared all desks should be 24 inches off the ground and the top of my knees are a bit over 26 inches when sitting so that's simply unusable without me raising my desktop. Still, the "top should be level and the bottom should be no more than 30 degrees down tilt" does not seem controversial from what I've read.

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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:19PM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:19PM (#837269)

    Son of a.... Yes the hypotenuse is more like 25 than 23 inches but whatever given the amount of head wiggle and slouch and exact chair positioning and stuff my number is accurate enough as an engineering estimate.

    Kids, don't do trig right before going to sleep.... or at least drink more caffeine.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:19PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:19PM (#837270)

      Oh F this, I got it right the first time; I'm going to sleep and try to do math again tomorrow.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:33PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:33PM (#837279) Journal

    The trigonometry and ergonomics can be painful with larger monitors in portrait and if you buy multiple smaller monitors to run them in portrait mode then why not just run a larger in landscape....

    Pretty impressive wall of text.
    My setup: left monitor, portrait, fits the IDE. Second monitor, landscape: email, IM, browser, some terminals, occasionally a rich text editor.
    I don't feel the need for more than two monitors and their resolution is below the 4K range.
    But then, what do I know?, I'm just engineering some software in a team spread over 5 timezones around the globe, not an ergonomics designer.

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