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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the they-don't-keep-going-and-going dept.

CNet:

Electric cars are becoming an increasingly common sight on American roads. And while just a few brands may dominate the news cycle, there are actually well over a dozen fully battery-electric models on sale in the US today.

We thought it would be helpful to throw together a guide to better make sense of all your electric options if you're on the hunt for a new car. And to go a step further, we're also adding just how far each one will go on a single charge.

The range of most models still relegate them to commuter cars.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:54AM (2 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:54AM (#837090)

    This.
    Plus all the electric motorcycles and scooters, which now have decent range and speed, and are great solution for warmer times.

    nitpick:
    > For $75,000 I could buy seventy-five high-end electric bicycles

    $1k buys a low-end electric bike. Mid-range is $2k-3k, high-end reaches $5k quickly.

    > The range of most models still relegate them to commuter cars.

    Which is what 90% of people needs well over 95% of the time.
    Call them "second cars", then you can change the negative "relegate them to" into a "optimum choice for" (cheaper fuel, cheaper maintenance, HOV lanes, premium parking, zero idling waste in traffic jams...)

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by choose another one on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:01AM (1 child)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:01AM (#837162)

    > Call them "second cars", then you can change the negative "relegate them to" into a "optimum choice for"

    "Second car" is more realistic / accurate, but is still a negative.

    "Second car" means "another car you have to buy, tax, insure, maintain, find somewhere to park" - it may well be the "optimum choice for", but that doesn't mean it is part of the optimum overall solution.

    Example: I have a large (for UK) 7 seater conventional car, most of the time when it's in use it carries one or two people and does no more than 80 miles in a day. It is clearly suboptimal for that usage, it eats fuel (more than a smaller car), it is a pain to park (it's big), it has a poor driving position (IMO), it has the aerodynamics of a brick and the handling of a wet sponge. BUT, several times a year it carries more than 5 people (which, here, you cannot legally do in a five seater) and several times a year it is filled up with kids and luggage (often several bikes on the back too) and then driven 3/4/500 miles (sometimes further) for something we call a holiday. Cannot do that in a leccy commuter car.

    Now, sure, I could have an electric for everyday and then rent something large for those few trips a year - but I've looked at the cost of that several times and every time it has added up (over a typical year) to _more_ than the car costs to keep on the road. So it's cheaper to keep it and accept that it is suboptimal for most of its journeys (maybe not most of its mileage), until someone invents an electric car that costs no more than the fuel cost of a conventional (and parks in zero space too cos I don't have any spare parking). I could of course take different holidays, take less luggage make two trips to the nearest airport and fly - remind me, why are we doing this electric car thing anyway?

    Basically an ICE will do 100% of the journeys an electric can do, until an electric does 100% of those journeys you need _two_ cars: electric and ICE, or just one: ICE.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:41PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:41PM (#837354)

      From your description, if you had to have a second car (and in some places, it's a given), or even more than two, then only one of them needs to be an ICE.
      That's major progress.

      For the people who only have space/money for one car, and the logistics of renting are too daunting, the PHEVs are coming down in price slowly. Commute electric, road-trip on gas anytime. It may take another few years before the TCO premium over buying a used ICE makes sense for many people.