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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:11AM   Printer-friendly
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Venezuela Crisis Live Updates: Clashes Erupt After Opposition Leader Calls for Uprising

• Clashes between anti-government protesters and law enforcement officers erupted in Caracas on Tuesday after the Venezuelan opposition leader, Juan Guaidó, appeared alongside soldiers at a military base and called for the population to rise up against the president, Nicolás Maduro.

• Mr. Guaidó has urged the Venezuela military to join his side since he declared himself interim president more than three months ago. But it was a new step for him to make the declaration with men in uniform by his side. Still, it is unclear how much of the military supports him.

• The Trump administration, which has backed Mr. Guaidó since he first declared himself interim president in January, expressed immediate support for his latest move. President Trump tweeted, "The United States stands with the People of Venezuela and their Freedom!"

• Video and photos showed at least one instance where an armored vehicle rammed protesters. It was not immediately clear how many people were injured.

See also: Venezuela's Guaidó accused of coup attempt by government

Previously: Turmoil in Venezuela Surrounding Aid Deliveries


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:12AM (4 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:12AM (#837678) Journal

    Authoritarianism isn't the province of the right or left exclusively. And if you think a bunch of people calling themselves "socialist" actually makes them that, well, I give you the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea. You're really reaching, and still failing to grasp.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:36AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:36AM (#837694)

    Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte was authoritarian right. Francisco Franco Bahamonde was authoritarian right.

    That's about it. Dozens upon dozens of famous dictators have all been leftist. As they teach medical students: when you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras. Practically speaking, the authoritarian right does not exist. It's a fantasy of the leftist mind. The non-authoritarian left is also pretty exotic, and I can't even come up with an example for that one. It may be impossible, probably because "from each according to his ability" only comes from the barrel of a gun.

    "Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea" is a fine reminder that "Peoples'" signifies negation. Normally we should believe one claiming to be socialist. In every case I'm aware of, they are either socialist or communist.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:30PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:30PM (#838001) Journal

      Sounds to me like "authoritarian right" is just poorly organized then, LOL.

      But no, seriously: don't conflate the economic left-right axis with the social left-right axis. They're orthogonal to one another, and for very good reason. Social authoritarians can work in either economic extreme, because both extremes are impossible to live sanely under.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:34PM (1 child)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:34PM (#838101) Journal

    Authoritarianism isn't the province of the right or left exclusively.

    Is that backpedaling I hear?

    And if you think a bunch of people calling themselves "socialist" actually makes them that, well, I give you the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea.

    Are they supposed to not be socialist? Do tell!

    So No True Socialist would do these terrible things. Unfortunately, there's a lot of fake socialists in the world, and it's awful hard to tell the fake ones apart from the real ones.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:08PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:08PM (#838125) Journal

      No, Hallow, I've said for a long time that authoritarianism can fall anywhere along the economic left/right axis. You, of course, have selective vision and a poor memory.

      No True Socialist (TM) is also a strawman. Some socialists would, and their placement on the on authoritarian/freedom axis doesn't change their placement on the economic left/economic right axis. So some true socialists do, some don't, some true capitalists do, and some don't.

      You really suck at this. A child could see what you're trying (and failing) to pull.

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