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https://lwn.net/Articles/786593/
An April Fools joke that went sour seems to be at least the proximate cause for a rather large upheaval in the Devuan community. For much of April 1 (or March 31 depending on time zone), the Devuan web site looked like it had been taken over by attackers, which was worrisome to many, but it was all a prank. The joke was clever, way over the top, unprofessional, or some combination of those, depending on who is describing it, but the incident and the threads on the devuan-dev mailing list have led to rancor, resignations, calls for resignations, and more.
Quick summary:
- Nicosia (a core dev) posted to the mailing list saying Devuan was compromised.
- Nicosia kept up the joke for some time.
- Nicosia admitted it was a prank later.
- Mike Bird suggested legal action against Nicosia and auditing/rebuilding the affected servers.
- Nicosia stepped down on April 11.
- Roio (a core dev) accused CenturionDan (a core dev) of causing Nicosia to step down.
- Reurich (a core dev) commented on the divide between people who want to use Devuan professionally and people who use Devuan for fun.
- Roio objected to Reurich.
- Reurich considered stepping down.
Some facts (?) gathered from the comments:
- Many core devs were unaware of the joke. They thought the compromise was real, as everyone but Nicosia was blocked from logging in to the affected server. They worked to shut down their infrastructure and isolate it from the supposedly compromised machine.
- The Devuan continuous integration server is apparently still down.
Related: Devuan Site Possibly Hacked
(Score: 1, Troll) by Gaaark on Saturday May 04 2019, @03:12AM (8 children)
So, NOT a nerd/geek, I see. Not a hacker either. Just a person who likes it up the ass, huh!
Good. for. you.
How the hell do you find out what you like unless you try different things? Did you stop at the first girl you met?......wait. Who am I kidding...you don't like girls, huh!
So... Windows and nothing but. Or Apple fan-boi? But not an operating system enthusiast.
Good. for. boring. you.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 04 2019, @03:40AM (4 children)
You assume wrong, I'm afraid. I did try Linux almost 20 years ago. I honestly forget which distribution I tried back then, but I put together a cheap box and put Linux on it. Everything back then worked fine... except the modem (yep, days of dialup still where I lived then) would work when logged in as root, but not when logged in as a user. Bad mojo being on internet while logged in as root, so I tried to fix it. Failed. Searched for help. Couldn't find any. Finally logged into a "Linux Help IRC" channel, explained my problem to the folks there, and asked for suggestions. Got mocked and insulted instead. Sold box to coworker for his son to use as cheap Windows gaming box.
Since then, Linux has so many distros no one not obsessed could keep track. Like the Avengers, out of over 14 million possible timelines, only one will ever have a year of the Linux desktop. I don't think it's this particular timeline.
No, I guess I'm not an op enthusiast, although I did enjoy reading "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System". I use computers to do things, not for the sake of the computer itself. What's so funny is that Linux could be a contender for hearts and minds of nongeeks if you'd just settle on three versions. You don't even have to get down to one! Three! But you'd rather infight each other than band together. It's sad, really.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 04 2019, @03:52AM (1 child)
With the full awareness that I'm responding to an obvious troll here...
It helps to think of Linux as only really having 6 different kinds or so, maybe even less. Debian/*buntu/other .deb distros, RHEL/CentOS/Fedora/SuSE/other .rpm distros, Arch and other pacman distros, Slackware, Void, Gentoo, and all the odd specialist ones like Alpine. Most everything else builds on the previous, and the majority of them on the .deb or .rpm branches.
If you're not sure which one to use the answer...well, the answer used to be Ubuntu, maybe Mint now, but if you're asking that question, you likely don't want to mess with the more complicated ones.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday May 04 2019, @04:35PM
Reasonable, but I consider *buntu to be significantly different from Debian. Admittedly they are based on Debian, but Mandrake (whatever it's called now) was originally based on Red Hat, too. I'm more comfortable saying that Mint and the *buntus are basically the same, but the last time I tried Mint was, for some reason, extremely slower. I can't defend any guess as to why, but since I often have a bunch of Firefox windows open, it could be some browser interaction.
Really, the package format is less important that other choices. E.g. Red Hat made it impossible to read a disk partition when mounted from another system. I didn't intentionally *ASK* for encryption, but they must have decided that I wanted it. So ever since I've avoided Red Hat. This attitude *has* spilled over onto SUSE, but I'm not sure how validly. Of course, I'm one of those people who for a period of time tried every distribution they could get their hands on. (Well, actually until Red Hat discontinued their Professional Edition, I was a steady user of Red Hat. When they dropped it suddenly and without warning, they also dropped any allegiance I had to them. But they didn't do it also ungracefully, so I also didn't dislike them. [IIRC, at first I switched to Pink Tie Linux, as I still didn't have a fast internet connection.])
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Saturday May 04 2019, @09:00AM
No-one keeps track of all the distros (apart from the guys who run Distrowatch, but that's their job) because you don't need to. Most of them are just different wallpaper. You just pick one and get on with the job.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:28AM
I'm not surprised you got put down when asking for help if your cry for help was as well crafted as your initial comment.
I also had problems with a modem in Windows. It would not work at all (the brain-dead system even offered to search and download the modem driver for me--- duh!).
Had to go to ANOTHER machine and download the driver from there and floppy it over to mine.
If you ask for help reasonably, you usually get a reasonable response: THAT is MY experience.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 04 2019, @05:27AM (1 child)
dude.
queerbashing by using "likes it up the ass" on an inferred male AC?
super fucking lame. Are you the uncle who nobody invites to xmas or new years or thanksgiving, because he's too homophobic and someone's tired of getting bashed?
because, you come across like that uncle who, when the funeral is on a rainy day, has a no-show.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:14AM
You'd have to ask AC about your 'queer' problem:
"f*ck both my files and my anal cavity".
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 06 2019, @06:46PM
Meh, feeding a troll (the parent, not you...), and yes the attitude on display shows a lack of creativity or exploration. But just making the minor point that computers/technology/IT is only one corner of geekdom, and there are plenty of non-IT geeks in the universe. Throwing asparagus at other geeks is indeed enough to ask someone to turn in their card.... trying to say legit point while preserving a sphere that not all geeks use (or are interested in) Linux.